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The Nhs Can't Even Keep Maternity Wards Open
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On a day when it is suggested that hundreds of thousands of diabetes sufferers are going to be offered gastric band surgery, it seems that we can't even keep our Maternity Wards open !
I'm not sure what happens when an expectant Mother turns up at her Hospital in the early stages of giving birth and finds the place closed. What does she do....give birth in the car park ?
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On a day when it is suggested that hundreds of thousands of diabetes sufferers are going to be offered gastric band surgery, it seems that we can't even keep our Maternity Wards open !
I'm not sure what happens when an expectant Mother turns up at her Hospital in the early stages of giving birth and finds the place closed. What does she do....give birth in the car park ?
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Sorry boxy...my mistake it would seem. We should ignore aog here, as he is just making the same anti-immigrant point he always does.
I suspect that its only the immigrant staff in our Hospitals that are keeping the situation under control. I have been in and out of Hospitals here in South Wales for the last 18 months, due a serious head injury suffered by my brother, and it seems that its a case for "thank God for the immigrants" as far as staffing across the board is concerned.
I suspect that its only the immigrant staff in our Hospitals that are keeping the situation under control. I have been in and out of Hospitals here in South Wales for the last 18 months, due a serious head injury suffered by my brother, and it seems that its a case for "thank God for the immigrants" as far as staffing across the board is concerned.
No sorry AOG Dr Graves was saying they should be charged...
thanks for the ref - which does NOT show obs units are being closed by being overloaded with immigrants...
but you could show that with audit - you look at closure rates of units near airports compared to ones in well you know north somerset.
Charging immigrants is fraught - you could say pay up front - but what do you do if they cant ? chuck em out ? More dead babies in car parks.
The other thing is you need a charging clerk on, 24 hrs a day -and then your charges would have to defray the clerks wages BEFORE you could claim it was working.
I havent looked at your second ref - equally applicable I assume ?
thanks for the ref - which does NOT show obs units are being closed by being overloaded with immigrants...
but you could show that with audit - you look at closure rates of units near airports compared to ones in well you know north somerset.
Charging immigrants is fraught - you could say pay up front - but what do you do if they cant ? chuck em out ? More dead babies in car parks.
The other thing is you need a charging clerk on, 24 hrs a day -and then your charges would have to defray the clerks wages BEFORE you could claim it was working.
I havent looked at your second ref - equally applicable I assume ?
Baldric - thx for the Sentinel ref whose final sentence is:
"I would like to say a big thank you to the electorate of Chesterton who voted for me on May 22."
this is an odd sentence for an investigative journalist with cast iron stats,
but is much more typical of a political candidate who is seeking votes.
but thx for trying
"I would like to say a big thank you to the electorate of Chesterton who voted for me on May 22."
this is an odd sentence for an investigative journalist with cast iron stats,
but is much more typical of a political candidate who is seeking votes.
but thx for trying
Royal College of Midwives says there are 21 000
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I think there are 200 000 nurses
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I think there are 200 000 nurses
AOG tighten your sprockets - pleeeease !
Chamberlen was a famous man midwife in the 1670s - he invented the prototype obstetrical forceps as opposed to the 'tire-tete'. He realised that the function of forceps should be to create a pressure free cage around the child's head parting the mothers tissues in front of it
c19 only women - but 'sages-femmes' = unqualified midwives tended to interfere. Men have been allowed to qualify for around 30y
Midwife by the way is a protected description if you havent got the certificate you cant call yourself a midwife. -
Chamberlen was a famous man midwife in the 1670s - he invented the prototype obstetrical forceps as opposed to the 'tire-tete'. He realised that the function of forceps should be to create a pressure free cage around the child's head parting the mothers tissues in front of it
c19 only women - but 'sages-femmes' = unqualified midwives tended to interfere. Men have been allowed to qualify for around 30y
Midwife by the way is a protected description if you havent got the certificate you cant call yourself a midwife. -
Hi Sqad - he was in the books as a midwife - he got a warrant from Charles ll to deliver any and all women in the London as of duty - the then society of midwives later petitioned the king to be released from it.
He wouldnt have been FRCS a bit early for that ( 1799, Abernethy I recall was one of the founder fellows along with Percivall Pott ) but may well have been that as well.
and and and - when they pulled his house down in 193x .... they found in a floorboards, a box with his original forceps. [Dont tell me they are at the RCS museum ] .
Out front fella - I was gonna say I cant recall any obstetrician/accoucheur from a century later - but erm I can, Mauriceau, Smellie ....
He wouldnt have been FRCS a bit early for that ( 1799, Abernethy I recall was one of the founder fellows along with Percivall Pott ) but may well have been that as well.
and and and - when they pulled his house down in 193x .... they found in a floorboards, a box with his original forceps. [Dont tell me they are at the RCS museum ] .
Out front fella - I was gonna say I cant recall any obstetrician/accoucheur from a century later - but erm I can, Mauriceau, Smellie ....
certainly isnt news
from the BMJ 1962 - perusing it today you know as one does
considering whether further guidance was needed.
Shortage of Maternity Beds
Mr. A. ALBU (Edmonton, Lab.) asked the Minister whether he was awaie of the acute shortage of maternity beds in hospitals, especially in urban areas with acute housing
shortage and what action he proposed to take to remedy this situation. Mr. POWELL told him that the Hospital Plan
provided for increasing maternity beds by over one-third.
The proposals were under continuous review, both locally
and nationally.
from the BMJ 1962 - perusing it today you know as one does
considering whether further guidance was needed.
Shortage of Maternity Beds
Mr. A. ALBU (Edmonton, Lab.) asked the Minister whether he was awaie of the acute shortage of maternity beds in hospitals, especially in urban areas with acute housing
shortage and what action he proposed to take to remedy this situation. Mr. POWELL told him that the Hospital Plan
provided for increasing maternity beds by over one-third.
The proposals were under continuous review, both locally
and nationally.
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