I Have Been Waiting For This Little Snippet

[royfromaus]

I'm surprised the usual newshounds haven't posted a thread about it


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-margaret-3849172


I not shocked though... any views from the Thatcher worshippers?

[emeritus]

Anthony Gilberthorpe has a track record of approaching the Media with information. He got £25 k for this one back in the eighties having set up a sting for an MP with the Sunday Mirror.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/anatomy-of-a-sting-how-an-mp-was-trapped-1236130.html

[Sqad]

\\\\ any views from the Thatcher worshippers?\\\\

Yes, whoever was Prime Minister at the time, Lady Thatcher in this case, then it should have been investigated......perhaps it was.
Did it stop in the Blair decade? I doubt it.

House of Commons is a Club, like a Golf Club, a Working Man's Club, it has it's rules, both written and unwritten and tends to deal with "things"...in-house.

Does one "grass" on one's mates and hope to succeed in one's career?.........past history tells us that the "grass" doesn't succeed.

An ethical dilemma for each and every one.

[royfromaus]

I thought it was 15,000 emeritus.

'Former Conservative activist Anthony Gilberthorpe said he told Margaret Thatcher 25 years ago about what he had witnessed and gave her names of those involved.'


I assume the police are in contact with Mr Gilberthorpe?

[mikey4444]

Morning Sqad !

It would seem to me that all these Westminster chickens are coming home to roost. Years ago, all these accusations could be just brushed under the carpet, but not now. The internet has changed everything. Access to information has always given people power. If vulnerable young boys were being abused years ago by powerful people, then those that knew but did nothing were complicit in the abuse. That might sound a tad harsh but it is true nevertheless. Abuse of the kind that is now being publicised ruined young lives. If all the slime is now crawling out from the mud...tough. Truth will always come out in the end...its just a tragedy that it sometimes has to take so long.

[royfromaus]

Just listening to Yvette Cooper dodging the question of whether Butler-Sloss is the right person to chair the child sex abuse inquiry.


It gives me no confidence of getting any satisfactory outcome.

[Farriercm]

How about the victims choosing who to chair the inquiry? do you trust Butler -Sloss?

[Sqad]

Morning mikey.

I cannot argue with any of the points that you have raised.

I do not know what Lady Thatcher knew or didn't know and that is why we are having this inquiry.

[royfromaus]

Dermot Murnaghan has asked both Yvette Cooper and James Brokenshire about Butler Sloss omitting information on the Bishop, both rabbitted on about her great passion for childrens issues and ignored the question.

[sandyRoe]

He says, " I was ordered to recruit boys for the ministers...", why would it have been thought that he was in a position to do that?

[vulcan42]

No, I don't trust Butler-Sloss, she's not exactly au fait with the subject if she only thinks it was her brother who instigated the Cleveland inquiry.

[anneasquith]

you would think that david Cameron and his advisors would have appointed some one above reproach to chair any investigations, butler sloss should stand down, as she must be aware whatever her findings '' some of us '' will not be convinced. as for saint Maggie, who knows ?

[mikey4444]

As she is now departed from this mortal coil, I suppose we will never know for sure Sqad. But I am uneasy about this forthcoming enquiry, despite having called for it for a long time now. There would appear to be such a long list of eminent names involved, I'm not sure that the "establishment" won't just close ranks again, as they always do. There may be a few names found to be guilty but I won't be at all surprised if they all turn out to be dead, thus saving face all round.

Much has been said in the last few days concerning the suitability of Elizabeth Butler-Sloss to chair this enquiry, and I have yet to make up my mind if she is suitable or not. But if we are looking for somebody that is suitable and is NOT a member of the establishment, I am unsure where we are going to find him or her. Suitability, availability and establishment would seem to be inextricably here.

This enquiry could go on for years, and I will not be too surprised if it is eventually kicked into the long grass, especially as the plan at present is not to make it a full Public Enquiry.

[mikey4444]

Sandy...knowing as little as I do about Mr Gilberthorpe, I would have thought he was ideal to go recruiting boys. He was a minor party gopher, who was practically unknown, and was eager to please.

What should these Tory Grandees have done...sent a Footman ?

[Farriercm]

Well the CLEVELAND INQUIRY Cost 4,000.000, god only knows how much this one will cost,with all the solicitors judges , etc climbing on board for those big fat fees.

[sandyRoe]

He could hardly have put an ad in Time Out, 'Adolescent lads wanted for Dionysian fringe event at upcoming Tory Party Conference. Chance to meet senior party figures.'
Whoever sent him must have thought he was already au fait with that murky demimonde.

[Quizmonster]

Mikey, you raised this same point a few days ago..."But if we are looking for somebody that is suitable and is NOT a member of the establishment, I am unsure where we are going to find him or her."
I'll give you the same answer now as I did then. There just must be someone in the senior judiciary or some such who (a) was NOT the brother of Thatcher's Attorney General in the 1980s and (b) did NOT, it seems, deliberately exclude a C of E bishop from a child-abuse inquiry report.
The appointee to head the current inquiry fails spectacularly on both counts!

[mikey4444]

QM...I fear that I may be coming around to your way of thinking here, but I have a funny feeling that we are stuck with Mrs B-S, for now at least.

[Coldicote]

Like it or not, human beings are part of the animal kingdom of this world. Some are more ‘animal’ than others, even though they may have attained responsible social positions. We should be thankful to those who recognise the difference and publicly uphold the law, especially when young people are the victims.

[royfromaus]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/westminster-child-abuse-call-cop-amnesty-020127921.html#4knoJK1

Sounds like a very good idea to me.