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Yet Two More Foreign Killers Off Our Streets.
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London is noted for gang killings, but this one involved Turkish gangs, how come they are in this country in the first place, Turkey isn't in the EU yet is it?
/// Baljit Ubhey, chief prosecutor for the Crown Prosecution Service, said: "This case represents just one of a long list of incidents of gang war between the Tottenham Turks and the Hackney Turks. ///
London is noted for gang killings, but this one involved Turkish gangs, how come they are in this country in the first place, Turkey isn't in the EU yet is it?
/// Baljit Ubhey, chief prosecutor for the Crown Prosecution Service, said: "This case represents just one of a long list of incidents of gang war between the Tottenham Turks and the Hackney Turks. ///
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Just to ask a question about 'born in a country'. .. If British people live in say japan (or any other country in this world) and they have children in that, country do we ever hear those children say (even though they look British) that they are Japanese or whatever country they are born in? Personally I have never heard it....I mean for e.g. Cliff Richard was...
17:19 Tue 15th Jul 2014
Turks have been coming to Britain for many years.
/On his father's side, BorisJohnson is a great-grandson of Ali Kemal Bey, a liberal Turkish journalist and the Interior Minister in the government of Damat Ferid Pasha, Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire, who was killed during the Turkish War of Independence in 1922. During World War I, Johnson's paternal grandfather and great-aunt were recognised as British subjects and took their grandmother's maiden name of Johnson./
/On his father's side, BorisJohnson is a great-grandson of Ali Kemal Bey, a liberal Turkish journalist and the Interior Minister in the government of Damat Ferid Pasha, Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire, who was killed during the Turkish War of Independence in 1922. During World War I, Johnson's paternal grandfather and great-aunt were recognised as British subjects and took their grandmother's maiden name of Johnson./
youngmafbog
/// Is Boris a member of a Turkish gang then, though his family had ///
Be fair YMB this is the other side of the apologist's coin, one side is "What amazing good immigration has done for this country" and the other side which they generally show when that isn't appropriate. they revert to lambasting some Tories or Royals for their foreign ancestry.
/// Is Boris a member of a Turkish gang then, though his family had ///
Be fair YMB this is the other side of the apologist's coin, one side is "What amazing good immigration has done for this country" and the other side which they generally show when that isn't appropriate. they revert to lambasting some Tories or Royals for their foreign ancestry.
/though his family had contributed to the British society on a whole?/
/lambasting /
I simply stated the fact that there is nothing new about Turks living in London and cut and pasted a piece of factual information about BJ as evidence
so any 'lambasting' is in your imagination aog assuming you know what it means
and ymb your written English is 'unusual'
Are you sure you're not both 'foreigners' yourselves? :-)
/lambasting /
I simply stated the fact that there is nothing new about Turks living in London and cut and pasted a piece of factual information about BJ as evidence
so any 'lambasting' is in your imagination aog assuming you know what it means
and ymb your written English is 'unusual'
Are you sure you're not both 'foreigners' yourselves? :-)
SeaJayPea
Good point.
AOG - is it not possible that they were born here?
I know the article refers to Turkish gangs, but that could very well mean that their families are from Turkey, but that the convicted are British (despite the semantic wrangling that may be employed to deny whatever appears on their passports and their background).
Good point.
AOG - is it not possible that they were born here?
I know the article refers to Turkish gangs, but that could very well mean that their families are from Turkey, but that the convicted are British (despite the semantic wrangling that may be employed to deny whatever appears on their passports and their background).
New Judge
My parent are Jamaican.
I consider myself British, in that I've never been to Jamaica, have a London accent, spend my days in Reiss and M&S suits, support England in the World Cup and Team GB in the Olympics.
What would people of your generation call me?
And how many generations would a family have to be here before they could call themselves British?
My parent are Jamaican.
I consider myself British, in that I've never been to Jamaica, have a London accent, spend my days in Reiss and M&S suits, support England in the World Cup and Team GB in the Olympics.
What would people of your generation call me?
And how many generations would a family have to be here before they could call themselves British?
Incidentally, many of the Turkish people who live near me, and the Greeks too for that matter, have been in this country since long before even we joined the EU. They came here from Cyprus when various parts of British industry and commerce were actively recruiting people from that Commonwealth country in the 1950s and 60s.
The people convicted in this case are not Turkish, nor do they appear to be from Turkish families. Marsh-Smith is hardly a Turkish name.
The people convicted in this case are not Turkish, nor do they appear to be from Turkish families. Marsh-Smith is hardly a Turkish name.
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