Another Question About Scotland

[ludwig]

Various people have pointed out that whichever way the vote goes, half of the people will inevitably be very dissappointed.
Will the legacy of the vote be a divided population?

[SirOracle]

Yes V..E We cannot lose no matter which way the decision goes on the 18th.

I am a very happy man.

[Obiter]

"According to today's news the two Cs have offered Scotland extra powers and an extension of the Barnett formula if the Nos win."

If that is correct it is reminiscent of what was said at the time of the Act of Union,"...bought and sold for English gold"

[kylesmum]

Too late - postal votes have been cast. Far too little too late it's an insult to the good people who have voted on the basis of the propaganda.

[Peter Pedant]

Tommy Sheridan left wing firebrand - who has picked up a conviction for perjury along the way... says he is all for Scottish independence

Do you think he is telling the truth this time ?

[vetuste_ennemi]

"..cannot lose", eh, Sir Oracle? No affront to the self-respect of the "proud and independent" Scots involved in this continued proffering of the begging bowl, then? Wallace will turn in his grave. All five of them.

[anneasquith]

pp,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you may want to update you're knowledge of mr. Sheridan's legal position.

[SirOracle]

V..E Ab initio the SNP wanted a third question on the ballot paper "Devo Max". Cameron refused this and insisted that there were only two options to be on the ballot "Yes" or "No".

Yet again Cameron has changed his mind,as he has done on many things.

I personally think that had this third option been allowed then it would have won by a proverbial mile.

So this is why I am a happy man.

[SirOracle]

Anneasquith...I agree and T Sheridan is still fighting his corner against the News of the World and Coulson, for their perjury. So far as I know he (Sheridan) has not yet received his £200,000 from them.

[Quizmonster]

Perhaps you didn't notice, AOG, but the question was about members of the possibly 'divided' Scottish population. To make it straightforward for you...Jock against Jock. It was NOT about any division between that population as a whole and political parties such as Tories and UKIP.

[jomifl]

A Scottish friend of mine(now sadly deceased) used to regale the local French with the tale of the battle of Stirling Bridge and how the Scots thrashed the English......800 years ago :o)

[maggiebee]

Yes Jomifl and we're still hearing about the 1966 World Cup as if anyone nowadays gives a flying fandango!

[SirOracle]

Absolutely riveting Jomifl.

[New Judge]

"Scotland is ruled from Westminster and we certainly didn't vote the tories in."

Quite so, maggie. And South East England is also ruled from Westminster and people there did not vote in the Labourites in 1997, 2001 and 2005 (or, I imagine, on many other occasions when a Labour government was returned). But was the South-East offered devolution? Were they clamouring for a vote to break away from the UK? No. They were forced to share their considerable wealth and income with the rest of the UK, including Scotland. If the Scots want to break away from the union there is nothing I'd like better but for the three major parties at Westminster to now offer them bags full of goodies because it looks like they may possibly do just that is an outrage. Never mind about a divided population in Scotland; it's the population of the rest of the UK that will foot the bill for this further devolution and they have not had a say in the matter at all. Specifically, Mr Cameron ruled out "devo-max" (or whatever other ridiculous term you'd care to call it). Now, three days before the match, the not only have the goalposts been moved but the pitch has shifted.

[jomifl]

Sir O, glad you appreciate sarcasm ...note to self,must remember to be less subtle.

[DTCwordfan]

Someone very quickly needs to formulate plans for 7 regional governments with part of the income tax as the starting point for their respective spends and responsibilites. If the Scots want to choose to tax 2p in the pound more than the Southwest, then so be it. There should be a standard income tax for common UK issues, those issues to include the EU, Defence, Foreign Policy, perhaps Motorways, NHS specialist services (general to the region), the Royal Family, etc etc - it's a question of sitting down and defining it - something that they ought to have done with the EU by the way.

We would have a National Assembly of say 200-300 members and a 2nd house set up with a standard number of reps per region - a quasi USA system - no archaic and anachronistic Bishops, Dukes and Lords (unless elected). The regions to include Scotland, Wales, N-Ireland, South East, South West, Midlands and the Bum, and Northern England.

Offering give-aways to some wailing minorities is not the way to go

I don't see why I should pay for the Scots and vica versa.......

[Obiter]

"Midlands and the Bum"

What, pray, is the Bum in this context?

[DTCwordfan]

An English friend of mine(now sadly deceased) used to regale the local Cornish with the tale of the battle of Flodden and how the English thrashed the Scots ......401 years ago - and 1 week :o)

Shame about James IV as well.

[DTCwordfan]

East Anglia.......

[jomifl]

DTC, seems as if the English have shorter memories than the Scots...no idea where that takes us though.

[DTCwordfan]

There's all sorts of battles to recall on either side, 596AD, the Angles beat up the Scots, North Britons and Picts at the Battle of Raith......the joy of history, jomifl.