Whatever The Result Are We Now Divided Forever Now?

[youngmafbog]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29238890

Even if the No wins, it will still leave the best part of the country as wanting Independence, add in those that voted No because they get cold feet and you probably to have a majority wanting it.

Investors have already started moving money out, I suspect we will see that continue over the next few years as the next vote on Independence (and I doubt it will be long) will go for yes when they find they wont get what they think they will from Westminster promises.

Also expect fighting in the streets tomorrow, especially if the SNP loose, coupled with many accusations and name calling no doubt.

[dannyk13]

New word- Salmondise - definition- to divide a nation.

[Prudie]

I feel if it's No then there will continue to be a campaign for Yes in the future.
I'm stunned that such a massive massive potential change is being done on one vote - it's clear from the press there are lots of don't knows and lots changing sides from one day to the next. How can something so huge be decided by such flakiness.

[DTCwordfan]

give Danny best answer

[janbee]

4m voters get to decide the future of 64m. Where is the democracy in that? Slug Salmond is Hitler but without the sweet winning personality !!

[janbee]

Whatever the outcome, the damage is done and Scotland itself will be divided. Very very very divisive referendum. Shame on Salmond. Why does he hate Scotland so much?

[Canary42]

The Spectator has already provided Cameron with a draft apology if YES wins.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Phrases-and-Sayings/Jokes/Question1365979.html

[jno]

dannyk, Scottish nationalism was a force before Salmond was born. If he has given voice to it, that's a politician's job (and a statesman's).

But janbee gets the Godwin's Law award.

[naomi24]

The 'Godwin's Law award' is utter nonsense.

[jno]

comparing Hitler (who wanted to take over other countries) and Salmond (who wants to do the opposite) is nonsense.

[-Talbot-]

I think it will be a resounding NO. It will be up to the Yes voters on whether Scotland suffers division from the result.

[dannyk13]

Jno, Salmonds job is to represent the WHOLE of Scotland,not just those who support separatism.

[jno]

he's giving the whole of Scotland a vote. That's democracy for you (and how many people are demanding Cameron do the same over the EU?)

[andy-hughes]

As usual - we will ignore the lessons that history has taught us.

On this occasion - the time when Quebec was mandated on separation from Canada, and as the Mayor at the time confirmed last week on Radio 4 - noises were made about re-running the vote 'when the time was right', but everyone knew they would never do it again.

Hopefully Scotland will take note.

[ludwig]

The campaign for independence isn't going to just go away in the event of a No vote. It might do if there were 10% in favour of it, but not when it's a 48% 52% split.

[New Judge]

There has always been an element in Scotland that want independence. All the referendum has done is to quantify it. But as I have said in other questions all this came about because of Blair's ridiculous devolution project. Instead of trying to unite the UK (the clue's in the name) he set up a project which was bound to lead to division and rancour. Mr Cameron, to his shame, capitulated to the SNP's demands for a referendum but he had little choice given what had gone before.

When it is suggested that all the UK should have a vote on the issue comparisons to a referendum on the UK's EU membership are drawn. These comparisons are disingenuous. The EU is not a sovereign state from which the UK seeks independence. It is a collection of sovereign nations to which (at the moment at least) members are free to subscribe or leave if they wish. No such situation prevails in the UK. The constituent parts are bound by a single constitution and any change to that constitution (which will impinge on all the parts) should be agreed by the entire nation.

The good thing about this is that the PM (and to a lesser degree, Messrs Milliband and Clegg) are stuffed whatever the result. If it is "Yes" they must all consider their positions as they have wholeheartedly supported the "No" campaign. If it is "No" they have each promised the Scots a new bag full of goodies to which the other three constituents will not be privileged and they may find a little difficulty persuading the English, Welsh and NI MPs to go along with their outrageous plan.

[jomifl]

I think the English are going to view the Scots with a much more jaundiced eye than previously. The intensity of the dislike that many Scots have of the English may have come as a surprise to some but not those of us that have worked there.

[naomi24]

jno, //comparing Hitler (who wanted to take over other countries) and Salmond (who wants to do the opposite) is nonsense.//

That may be, but it doesn’t detract from the fact that Godwin’s Law, designed solely to restrict discussion, is nonsense.

youngmafbog, yes, I think the Scots are now divided forever – and moreover, even in the event of a ‘No’ vote, will be perceived to be divided forever from the rest of the country. This referendum has created bad feeling, and hence, division.

[ToraToraTora]

whatever way it goes a large proportion are going to be feeling aggreived, though I have heard the leaders of both campaigns say they will accept the result. Let's see how that pans out in reality. However I think Salmond must be secretly hoping for a no, so he has a purpose after the vote. I do hope we don't get browbeaten by repeat referendums until the yes side win.

[ToraToraTora]

YMB, I expect fighting tonight, they are keeping the pubs open all night!

[ludwig]

ludwig's law states that people who bring godwin's law into a discussion have actually now become more annoying than those who mention the nazis.

But janbee's comparison was indeed nonsense.