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Cover themselves in the daubings of a 10 year old and wonder why they don't get the job! Please!
Cover themselves in the daubings of a 10 year old and wonder why they don't get the job! Please!
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I'm with TTT here. I don't expect what I am going to say to be popular but I am going to go ahead anyway ! These tattoos just look childish. When I was a boy in the 50's and early 60's, we used to buy packs of bubble gum with transfers in them, in the way home from school. You licked these paper transfers and then stuck them on your arm. But as soon as you got home, Mum would...
06:56 Tue 23rd Sep 2014
small and out of sight tattoos are fine no problem at all. But as said I and many others find large 'on show' tattoos off-putting .
Yesterday I saw a girl walking down the street and it looked like she had full length trousers on, when she got closer I realised she was in shorts but had so many dark tattoos on her legs it looked like she was wearing trousers.
Yesterday I saw a girl walking down the street and it looked like she had full length trousers on, when she got closer I realised she was in shorts but had so many dark tattoos on her legs it looked like she was wearing trousers.
Well, just got back to this thread, some interesting views.
Mikey: thanks for your support, yet another thing we agree on!
Ratter: “TTT, you are clearly very narrow minded” – perhaps you can explain the mentality of permanently marking yourself with something that may have seemed right at the time. How come tattoo removal is a growing industry, could it be that there is a realisation of the stupidity described by mikey above?
To me it’s the presence alone of tattoos that tells me about the mentality of the wearer rather than the tattoo itself.
Mikey: thanks for your support, yet another thing we agree on!
Ratter: “TTT, you are clearly very narrow minded” – perhaps you can explain the mentality of permanently marking yourself with something that may have seemed right at the time. How come tattoo removal is a growing industry, could it be that there is a realisation of the stupidity described by mikey above?
To me it’s the presence alone of tattoos that tells me about the mentality of the wearer rather than the tattoo itself.
Khandro //Surely the sole reason for having such visible tattoos is to draw attention to oneself, most likely because of a feeling of inadequacy,// No you are wrong!
Everybody has tattoos for different reasons, most of them are not about drawing attention to oneself, admittedly, some are. Art is used for many many purposes and despite what you think of tattoos they are art, some better than others, some are abismal some are breathtaking they are art.
Everybody has tattoos for different reasons, most of them are not about drawing attention to oneself, admittedly, some are. Art is used for many many purposes and despite what you think of tattoos they are art, some better than others, some are abismal some are breathtaking they are art.
Whether or not perceptions are wrong, they exist, and employers, if they have any business acumen at all, have to take that into account. Just as I wouldn’t employ someone with visible tattoos in a position where they were expected to meet the public, or business associates, similarly I wouldn’t employ someone who arrived for an interview in a studded leather jacket and sporting face jewellery and a spiky punk hairstyle. It’s all about the impression you want to convey – and in business the impression you convey is important. Lofty ideals don't work.
Khandro - "Surely the sole reason for having such visible tattoos is to draw attention to oneself, most likely because of a feeling of inadequacy ..."
I disagree.
As advised by Ratter, the reasons for tattoos are as many and varried as the tattoos themselves, and indeed the people who wear them.
The notion that a tattoo is a silent 'Look at me!' message is dubious - there are plenty of other less permanent ways of drawing attention if one wishes so to do.
From my experience of talking to musicians with tattoos, it is self-expression, nothing more or less, rather than attnetion seeking. The majority of the musicians I meet are getting more than enough attention already thank you!
I disagree.
As advised by Ratter, the reasons for tattoos are as many and varried as the tattoos themselves, and indeed the people who wear them.
The notion that a tattoo is a silent 'Look at me!' message is dubious - there are plenty of other less permanent ways of drawing attention if one wishes so to do.
From my experience of talking to musicians with tattoos, it is self-expression, nothing more or less, rather than attnetion seeking. The majority of the musicians I meet are getting more than enough attention already thank you!
A couple of young colleagues of mine went to carry out a consultancy job at a remote site. They chose to wear jeans and 'biker' style leather jackets. Our clients were not well pleased. We would normally wear a sports jacket and flannels so as to 'identify' with these clients whether of not these were our normal garb.
naomi24 - "Just as I wouldn’t employ someone with visible tattoos in a position where they were expected to meet the public, or business associates, similarly I wouldn’t employ someone who arrived for an interview in a studded leather jacket and sporting face jewellery and a spiky punk hairstyle. It’s all about the impression you want to convey – and in business the impression you convey is important."
I can see your viewpoint, but that does not make it correct.
Unless someone takes a stand against visual predjudice, it will continue.
Dependent on the type of business, I would say there are more businesses than less that can afford to employ people of individualistic appearence - the business i work for - BT - is one, and there are a number of flamboyantly tattooed individuals dotted around the place.
A predjudice thhis company could use is vocal - they could refuse to employ a man who talks in a camp manner, inferring homosexuality to the caller, which may in turn predjudice the caller's view of the company, and indirectly harm its business.
Fortunately, BT has robust anti-discrimination legislation, and such barriers do not exist - but only because someone has decided that predjudice in the work place should be discouraged, and the proper place to start is with the empoyer's attitudes.
I can see your viewpoint, but that does not make it correct.
Unless someone takes a stand against visual predjudice, it will continue.
Dependent on the type of business, I would say there are more businesses than less that can afford to employ people of individualistic appearence - the business i work for - BT - is one, and there are a number of flamboyantly tattooed individuals dotted around the place.
A predjudice thhis company could use is vocal - they could refuse to employ a man who talks in a camp manner, inferring homosexuality to the caller, which may in turn predjudice the caller's view of the company, and indirectly harm its business.
Fortunately, BT has robust anti-discrimination legislation, and such barriers do not exist - but only because someone has decided that predjudice in the work place should be discouraged, and the proper place to start is with the empoyer's attitudes.
TTT, //perhaps you can explain the mentality of permanently marking yourself with something that may have seemed right at the time.//
Does it really need explaining to you? I could never do that, everybody has different tattoos for many different reasons, I cannot speak for them. Of course tattoo removal is a growing industry, the number of people having tattoos is growing and with the advancements in technology tattoo removal is becoming better and cheaper and of course some people make mistakes and want them removed. I have my first loves name tattooed on my upper arm, that was nearly 40 years ago, I married her and divorced her and married and divorced again, her name is still there, just not very readable , I don't regret it, I just wouldn't do it again. Thankfully we are all unique
Does it really need explaining to you? I could never do that, everybody has different tattoos for many different reasons, I cannot speak for them. Of course tattoo removal is a growing industry, the number of people having tattoos is growing and with the advancements in technology tattoo removal is becoming better and cheaper and of course some people make mistakes and want them removed. I have my first loves name tattooed on my upper arm, that was nearly 40 years ago, I married her and divorced her and married and divorced again, her name is still there, just not very readable , I don't regret it, I just wouldn't do it again. Thankfully we are all unique
naomi24 - "Andy, //Unless someone takes a stand against visual predjudice, it will continue. //
You jeopardise your business if you want to - that's your choice - but don't expect other people to jeopardise theirs for your ideals."
I don't have a business, and like anyone else, my eye would be on the impact of a prospective employee on my proft margins, rather than any altruistic notion of shattering unjust attitudes.
But I certainly don't expect anyone to act in any way to support my 'ideals' - I am simply putting forward a point of view - nothing more.
You jeopardise your business if you want to - that's your choice - but don't expect other people to jeopardise theirs for your ideals."
I don't have a business, and like anyone else, my eye would be on the impact of a prospective employee on my proft margins, rather than any altruistic notion of shattering unjust attitudes.
But I certainly don't expect anyone to act in any way to support my 'ideals' - I am simply putting forward a point of view - nothing more.
I must admit in all fairness to the anti tattoo brigade, I don't have a tattoo because I am mindful it might impact on my likelihood to get historic roles if there is any nudity involved, but I do feel acting is very much a niche thing because your body can be a canvas, if you work in a shop/ office I don't see it make s ha'ppence of difference.
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