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Outed Internet Troll Dead
I was shocked to read the orginal report of this woman trolling the McCanns and am doubly shocked by this news report
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I cannot begin to understand what motivates some seemingly 'decent' people to become internet trolls but it seems the shame is too much to bear in this case.
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I cannot begin to understand what motivates some seemingly 'decent' people to become internet trolls but it seems the shame is too much to bear in this case.
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ludwig - I and I am sure many others, have pondered the reason why the Madelaine McCann case captured the media and public imaginations to the extent it did, and still does.
For Sky to single out one individual expressing admittedly unpleasant views, and making a national media issue out of her does seem escessive, and I would suggest that it does not happen to anyone else in these circumstances, unless connected with the McCanns, and it does beggar the questions - why her, and why them?
For Sky to single out one individual expressing admittedly unpleasant views, and making a national media issue out of her does seem escessive, and I would suggest that it does not happen to anyone else in these circumstances, unless connected with the McCanns, and it does beggar the questions - why her, and why them?
> not even directed at them, sp1814
My understanding is that she used a hashtag (mccanns) to make it clear that her comments were directed at them.
She was confronted by a reporter who put to her she had posted messages attacking the McCann family, to which she replied: "I'm entitled to do that."
Why would the reporter think she was attacking the McCanns if it wasn't obvious from her tweets? And why would she have replied as she did if it wasn't true?
Although there's a lot we don't know (like why she killed herself) I think we have to take it that she was directing her comments at the McCann family.
My understanding is that she used a hashtag (mccanns) to make it clear that her comments were directed at them.
She was confronted by a reporter who put to her she had posted messages attacking the McCann family, to which she replied: "I'm entitled to do that."
Why would the reporter think she was attacking the McCanns if it wasn't obvious from her tweets? And why would she have replied as she did if it wasn't true?
Although there's a lot we don't know (like why she killed herself) I think we have to take it that she was directing her comments at the McCann family.
I don't really ant to offer an opinion on the overall case, but I will say this: The only time I see Sky News is when I go on coffee break from work every morning (at 11:00, to the pub across the road for about half an hour, or twenty minutes if the boss is reading).
On whatever day it was last week that Sky were trailing ahead to their special report on the McCann trolls I saw film footage of this one woman being doorstepped approximately six times in the 30 (20) minute period I was watching. This was interspersed with a montage of the vile tweets that had been posted - though it wasn't clear if she was responsible for any of those in particular. The television was muted, but I was left in no doubt what was going on, and it looked to me like hounding. On a continuous loop. And it didn't look pretty.
On whatever day it was last week that Sky were trailing ahead to their special report on the McCann trolls I saw film footage of this one woman being doorstepped approximately six times in the 30 (20) minute period I was watching. This was interspersed with a montage of the vile tweets that had been posted - though it wasn't clear if she was responsible for any of those in particular. The television was muted, but I was left in no doubt what was going on, and it looked to me like hounding. On a continuous loop. And it didn't look pretty.
Retrochic - "The Press are totally responsible for this death and something needs to be done."
That is somewhat of a sweeping statement since nothing has been revealed about the reasons for this poor woman's death.
It may well be that the Press had some effect on her state of mind - we may never know - but no suicide is carried out in an isolation of circumstances, it's always more complicated than that.
That is somewhat of a sweeping statement since nothing has been revealed about the reasons for this poor woman's death.
It may well be that the Press had some effect on her state of mind - we may never know - but no suicide is carried out in an isolation of circumstances, it's always more complicated than that.
Retrcochic - "andy for your hypothesis to work we have to assume she was suicidal before she was outed by the Press."
On the contrary - we don't have to assume anything. Not based on scant news coverage, and no official evidence being available. Assumptions are highly dangerous in a lot of cases - this is just one of them.
"She may very well have been a bit 'unbalanced' but I suggest the public humiliation pushed her over the edge, therefore in my opinion, making the press responsible."
You can suggest it by all means, but that is not what you did.
You stated that the Press are, quote 'totally responsible' which is considserablly more than either an assumption, or a suggestion.
Isn't it?
On the contrary - we don't have to assume anything. Not based on scant news coverage, and no official evidence being available. Assumptions are highly dangerous in a lot of cases - this is just one of them.
"She may very well have been a bit 'unbalanced' but I suggest the public humiliation pushed her over the edge, therefore in my opinion, making the press responsible."
You can suggest it by all means, but that is not what you did.
You stated that the Press are, quote 'totally responsible' which is considserablly more than either an assumption, or a suggestion.
Isn't it?
Retrochic - thanks for clarifying.
Please accept my aplogies for my pedantic approach - I hold anyone who lives and works with a language other than their own with the utmost admiration.
I envy you, since whatever your native langaue may be, I would probably struggle yo communicate 'yes' and indeed 'no' correctly!
Please accept my aplogies for my pedantic approach - I hold anyone who lives and works with a language other than their own with the utmost admiration.
I envy you, since whatever your native langaue may be, I would probably struggle yo communicate 'yes' and indeed 'no' correctly!
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