Could This Be One Reason Why English Job Seekers Cannot Find Work?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/520811/Cleaner-wanted-who-speak-Polish

/// "Candidates who can speak both English and Polish preferred to be able to communicate with the other members of staff." ///

Would it have been easier if their adverts for cleaners stated that all applicants should be able to speak English?

[Prudie]

It's more likely that English speakers wouldn't want to be a cleaner.

[Svejk]

We'll never know, will we?

[Zeuhl]

Presumably, their recruitment of cleaners in the past has only attracted viable candidates who speak Polish

[ChillDoubt]

We need to a be a tad more like France:

http://www.thelocal.fr/20111012/1456

If you intend to live and work here you either speak the indigenous language or you GTFO, IMHO.

[aelmpvw]

they obviously want a cleaner who is good with polish

[youngmafbog]

Pretty much says it all doesn't it.

Whether or not it is why British jobseekers cannot find work, it certainly will preclude the vast majority.

No wonder UKIP have done so well.

[anotheoldgit]

PiperH

/// No this is not the reason why English job seekers cannot find work. ///

/// The majority of those in long term unemployment do not want to work or do not want to do jobs they see as demeaning, and are more than happy to sit back and carrying on taking the benefit cheques. ///

We have heard this all before and has been a subject for many posts.

Read my headline you will then notice that this includes the two words "ONE REASON" then perhaps you will then go on to address this particular question.

[Canary42]

This is G4S remember - with their record I hope they're not representative of Employers generally.

[Retrochic]

One of my daughters is senior management in housekeeping with a large chain of hotels. She says its very rare for any English people to apply for the cleaning jobs and when they do they don't last very long, take days off without warning and flatly refuse overtime. On the contrary the Polish workers do a good job will see a job through to the end and don't moan when they are asked to stay back in an emergency. Most have a smattering of English and pick it up quickly and management have phrase books. Until we come out of the EU we will just have to put up with it, if I wanted to go to Greece to work I would not have to prove I could speak Greek, we are all in the same boat.

[anotheoldgit]

Retrochic

/// if I wanted to go to Greece to work I would not have to prove I could speak Greek, ///

Only if the Greeks did not include in their recruitment adverts, " Candidates who can speak both Greek and English preferred to be able to communicate with the other members of staff"

/// we are all in the same boat. ///

Maybe an unfortunate choice of words, when attached to immigration.

[Hypognosis]

The English language currently has a vacancy for a noun which means:-

a rare qualification or skill or prior experience, specified in a job advert so as to restrict the number of candidates to a manageable amount. This also makes an internal promotion possible to arrange when EU-wide advertising of the post is mandatory since only someone inside the organisation can have accrued the required experience in 'X'.


MacGuffin will have to do, for now.

[sp1814]

This could indeed hold back some applicants from requesting an interview with GS4, but reading through the article, it appears that having Polish as you first or second language isn't a key requirement.

At the end of the piece GS4 openly confirms that.

[whiskeryron]

Is it just me or do others feel that Brits should be offered all vacant jobs first & if they refuse on any grounds their jsa should be stopped. A job ( any job) is a job & to give job seekers a chance to achieve work ethics.

[B00]

On a slightly related note, we were advertising for a cleaner for our shop and during one bloke's tirade about "not bein' able to get a job- ANYWHERE" I pointed out the sign for this job, to which he promptly stated that "Urgh no, I'm not cleaning!"

[maggiebee]

Agree with whiskeryron, but as we are now in to fourth generation unemployed it will be an uphill struggle to achieve any kind of work ethic. Our mamby pamby welfare state has a lot to answer for.

[whiskeryron]

For goodness sake, how long are we going to keep throwing taxpayers money at people who are not prepared to accept jobs that are offered to them ? In the days of the big depression (1920s) my father & many more like him would take any job that was available in order to put food on the table. I am absolutely not a Tory voter ( have voted Labour all my life) but enough is enough. Lets try harder to get the jobless back into work.

[Zacs-Master]

Maybe you should vote conservative Whiskery
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/28/david-cameron-welfare-youth-unemployment

[Hypognosis]

@whiskeyron

I have a degree but, after graduating, discovered that all the jobs - even testing blood for AIDS (at the height of the 80s scare) - were over subscribed with applicants. (back at school I fell for advice about the coming biotechnology boom, as did thousands of others who all graduated at the same time, with not enough vacancies to go around: there never was this boom).

With only a Desmond, I had no hope of selection. After that, jobs always specified "5 years' experience in HPLC" or other specialist kit which you can't learn without being in a job. At 21,22, I was in the same trap as a school leaver.

I still needed to pay the rent so took jobs that hired with no questions - restaurant, delivering parcels etc.

Ever afterwards, I'd go to tech job interviews and they'd either give me that look or say it out loud :- "drifter".

That's what you get when you take "any old job". I cannot disrecommend it enough.

No matter how much you may admire people who take what's given, unless you work in HR, it counts for nothing.
"What's on his CV?",
"Cleaner, mostly"
"Why's he applying for an admin job?"
"File it under B".

So, if you want to be a cleaner -for life- take that job in the window, don't hold out for anything better.