Intelligence Services

[sp1814]

I know that it's common for some to reach for the phrase "Why isn't the West doing something about Islamic extremism?"...but can I be alone in thinking that behind closed doors - something is being done?

This is the latest in a number of stories I've read this year. Do these arrests make you feel more confident in the job our security services are undertaking, or does this not quell your fears?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30132981

[ChillDoubt]

Neither really, it just feels like the tip of an ever-present iceberg.
There will always be one or two that slip through the net, such is the nature of the work of intelligence services:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/04/suspect-burqa-counter-terror-restrictions

[Svejk]

Despite the constant support for the ROP on here, we are in an ongoing 'war'. As chilli says, they only need to 'get lucky' once.

[sandyRoe]

Conspirators in such a plot don't need to try and secure explosives, or the materiels to make them, which is always tricky for them. All that is required is for like minded people to acquire knives.
The security services will consider arrests here something of a feather in their caps.

[sp1814]

Svejk

The constant support for ROP???

Actually, I think that might be a constant derision of Islamoberks. It looks similar, but it's not exactly the same.

[Svejk]

If an Islamoberk is someone who dislikes misogynistic, homophobic Islamofascists, that'll be me alright.

[ToraToraTora]

It's one of those things where I assume they are doing things and I am occasionally pleased when it turns out they are. I suppose I'm as guilty as anyone of taking isolated things out of he big picture and asking what is being done but if I think about it I know they must be doing a job behind the scenes.

[Peter Pedant]

actually I am not

we're doing a lot but it is so secret we cant tell........

Stanley Baldwin in around 1936 said to the House of C : "my lips are sealed...."

and of course very one was invited to conclude it was so secret it couldnt be told.

and now of course we know it could not be told because it showed Baldwin was a duplicitous liar and it would have brought the govt down. So he was saying it save his own skin

[anotheoldgit]

When we hear of certain individuals who were plotting to behead an innocent member of the public, why are those who show concern and voice their opinions immediately called IslamophobicS?

Where all those who feared the Nazis in the 30s called Naziphobics?

We are constantly told that all Muslims are not terrorists and this is perfectly true, but the difficult question must be, how do we distinguish between the moderate ones and the extremists?

[Peter Pedant]

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// Where all those who feared the Nazis in the 30s called Naziphobics? //

o god another non sequitur - well most of them are dead to be honest

AND AOG you are old enough to know what they were....
usually called communist fellow-travellers, members of comintern, fifth columnists....

IN the thirties there was only one "mainstream" politician who spoke out during his 'years in the wilderness'

Appeasement was very very popular up to 1938.
The Nazi Soviet pact was a thunderclap and from that everyone knew war was inevitable....

I mean come on AOG you must have been brought up on observationns like that no matter how your parents voted....

[Peter Pedant]

Plotting to behead....
do we know this or have we just been told... ?

Someone bleating today that it is harder to tell terrorists because now they know their phones are being tapped....
O God honestly....