Sentenced To 10 Years For Raping Children

[hc4361]

This really is not good enough

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2842931/Baby-faced-rapist-sexually-assaulted-seven-underage-girls-young-12-said-kill-families-told-anyone.html

[andy-hughes]

No it's not.

The sentencing guidelines - possibly influenced by his admission which saves his victims from appearing in court and giving evidence - have seriously let down these poor young women.

The Law Lords who convene the sentencing procedures need to have a very hard look at what they created here.

[Baldric]

Agree with AH 100%

[hc4361]

Yes, an overhaul of sentencing guidelines is well overdue. Instead of a reduced sentenced for admitting guilt there should be a sentence penalty for pleading not guilty.

The starting point should be added to, not reduced

[ChillDoubt]

One can only hope that 'prison justice' will be meted out by at least one of his fellow inmates before he gets out in roughly 5 years.

[Zacs-Master]

Get involved then Andy
http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/get-involved.htm

[Mamyalynne]

Nowhere near enough, he was cold and calculating and that's only my polite version.

[hc4361]

Chilldoubt, I am very much in favour of the courts administering just punishment, not his fellow criminals.

It is too easy for criminals to claim compensation these days.

[andy-hughes]

methyl - "A the the courts have failed us, please can someone publish his address?"

And what would be the point of that?

For some self-righteous vigilante to go and take the law into his own hands?

That's really not the answer that is going to work for the good of all of us long term, is it.

If the law is inadequate - as it is in this case - then it must be amended by proper judicial debate and ruling.

Laws are what make us civilised - we can't simply decide to mete out our own 'justice' however much we feel provoked - that way lies anarchy.

[ChillDoubt]

Chilldoubt, I am very much in favour of the courts administering just punishment, not his fellow criminals.
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You have your opinion, I have mine. It would appear you're not in agreement with the punishment he's received, hence your post.

[Zacs-Master]

Stop bleating and become involved then.

[Zacs-Master]

That was to Andy.

[New Judge]

"The Law Lords who convene the sentencing procedures..."

Not correct, Andy. Firstly, the "Law Lords" no longer exist per se. The House of Lords lost its judicial functions with the establishment of the Supreme Court in 2009. The Lords of Appeal in Ordinary (to give them their full title) then in office became Justices in the Supreme Court and were banned from voting in the House of Lords debates until they retired or resigned from the Supremem Court.

But more importantly it is the independent Sentencing Council and its predessors the Sentencing Guidelines Council and the Sentencing Advisory Panel which compile sentencing guidelines.

[Zacs-Master]

NJ, if you read this, it might be fairly easy to conclude that there are certain Law Lords who still have a very big influence:

http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/about-us.htm

[ludwig]

It's 5 years by the way. Always halve the headline sentence to get the reality.

[andy-hughes]

Thanks NJ - always good to receive some up-to-date input.

[lady-janine]

not enough. he should never be freed. he is always going to be a danger.

[BlackadderV]

Don't forget that he is not a dirty old man but was a sixteen year old boy at the time. Obviously his problems need to be addressed.

[ummmm]

I wouldn't class a 16 year old as a 'boy'

But I do agree that his issues need to be addressed.

[Brenden]

The need to tighten up the law needs to be addressed, 10 years sentence and no parole - that is after he has been castrated.