Society and Culture....it encompasses human spirit
CB....for the general consensus
I opted for News...only because it is News.
However to attempt to pre-empt any-one who says she made the choice herself...so do thousands of troops every day, worldwide, every nationality
So where does humanity stop and self preservation start? Have we a humanitarian endemic on our hands ?
well at least, as I type, the nurse is still alive and the longer she goes on, I guess, the better the chances of her pulling through. Fingers crossed.
Sadly this is the risk people take in situations like this,happily there are always people who are prepared to take that risk for the benefit of others.I'm not a believer but my best wishes are with her and her family..
Hats off to these people who do this work they must be dedicated and know the risks. I hope it all ends well but I think the mind set is helping others less fortunate. Wish I had the ability & guts to do it.
She and any volunteer working with Ebola should have been put in quarantine and not let on an airliner with others. It may have been her choice to go into that situation and put herself at risk, but putting others at risk who had no choice is madness.
I personally think not that awful long ago that it was almost worthwhile putting your 'neck on the line' if you felt strongly enough.I might have myself as I do have a deep humanitarian vein which for some unknown reason does course through me...I have worked with aid agencies over and above working full time and raising my childen.
I didn't put my life in danger though but at that time I would have farthered my work..given half the chance.
Now...I think people are being put in situations which can't be readily resolved, the big boys aren't interested , it doesn't impact on them Internationally.
I salute those wonderful people but no...I wouldn't do it if I was relying on charity for back up.
It was her own choice to put her life on the line, but I don't mean that as a criticism, nor as a sign of lack of sympathy. She is a brave human for doing so and her work, along with the many other volunteers, has helped to keep the Ebola crisis under some level of control and we're now at last looking at a containable outbreak. In the days of May-September last year this thing was spinning out of control, and talk of case numbers in the order of a million was a real possibility. Thank goodness people like her have stepped up and done something about that. A few were, sadly, almost certain to get sick and even die. It's not been too many so far, and let's hope that there aren't many more to join the handful of unlucky volunteers. It was their choice -- and we should all be so, so grateful that they made that choice.
I don't think we'll disagree with this at all...it's a potentially shocking outcome and to be honest one I didn't foresee and i'm not naive.
Jim....given what you know now about just how 'fickle' and 'unstable' world politics and the UN are...would you have honestly put your neck on the line with the back up of the said UN and world powers ..who usually draft in the best, without any question..at the sniff of an oil barrel?
I'm thinking Sierra Alone (sic)
I maybe cynical but i'm not by nature so i'm going with my gut instinct...this could have been far better monitored.This woman did every check required to re-enter GB and she still presented with very mild symptoms on her own volition.That's shoddy by any standards.
Not quite sure what you're asking. If you are were wondering if I'd have gone over to volunteer at an Ebola response centre then no, I wouldn't have. Partly because I don't have the right background, partly because I'm not brave enough. I admire all those who are.
I wouldn't go so far as "shoddy" myself. "Mistaken", yes, and the checks should be tightened if possible. But shoddy? The policies on Ebola checking make sense if you take into account the low transmission rate. It just doesn't pass from person to person very easily, unless they are actually displaying symptoms and someone else contacts bodily fluids such as blood/ diarrhea etc. If neither of these is visibly happening then the risk to anyone else, even from an infected person who is about to come down with Ebola, remains minimal. The precautions needed are then also fairly minimal. Extreme measures such as mandatory three-week isolation could even prove unhelpful if they discourage people from volunteering (and this has been observed in places such as the US, where such measures being brought in led to a sizable drop in volunteer numbers).
Apologies for being unclear.
In an nutshell would you be happier going into a potentially oil rich country country which was being protected surreptitously by other countries or rather a country which appeared to offer nothing but grief by perpetuating a deadly virus ?
I guess part of your reply answered my question.The US aren't being quite as 'willing' let's say with their incubation.
Thank you all for answering and I think we all feel the same, we hope so much the lady pulls through and we are thankful for those people who *are* prepared to go just that extra mile.I applaud each and everyone of them !
Jim...don't worry or bother, i'm cynical.I'm not a political animal. more grassroots !
I always feel there's an agenda when a country is left alone to flounder...or perhaps lack of an agenda.It's that simple.Enjoy the rest of your night and thank you for taking the time to engage !
Are you deliberatley obtuse or dos ir come natirally Anne?
Havent you read anything we have all written about the nurse involved and how we feel about her?
However the wider picture is that she came into the country with the virus and whether you want to address that or not it does affect us all....as well as the wider ramifications which means that people like her feel they must join aid agencies. There should be a central agency.
However lets not get in the way of your lack of understanding of the bigger picture....your night wouldn't be complete without disagreeing with anyone , even on a subject we are all in agreement with. I despair in a lot of ways with humankind at times , you'd think you'd get sick fed up being awkward all the time !
That was to anne ...she's relentless. I don't even know how she gets away with being quite so awkward and obtuse all the time.Thank you to every one else.
Tonyav are you having a pop at me ? I was giving my opinion of anyone volunteering to help with Ebola. Surely to be put in quarantine is the sensible answer to stop it spreading.
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