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Is Multi-Cultism Partly To Blame?
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Yes it may be called political point scoring but aren't all politicians guilty of that?
One has to admit Nigel has a point, since multi-cultism we are slowly losing our well known British humour, one has to so careful these days not to upset or offend members of our ethnic minorities.
Yes it may be called political point scoring but aren't all politicians guilty of that?
One has to admit Nigel has a point, since multi-cultism we are slowly losing our well known British humour, one has to so careful these days not to upset or offend members of our ethnic minorities.
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Jim, if something doesn't work why keep on with it? Why should any country be subjected to living with other peoples just because they want to come to your country and that includes Brits going elsewhere too. No indigenous people should have to give up things to accommodate other tribes where they be. The rpoblem so it brings far outweighs any good IMO which is...
16:34 Thu 08th Jan 2015
We are not losing our British humour. Our humour has changed, but it always has done.
Forty years ago we heard nothing but Irish man or Paddy jokes everywhere. You hardly ever hear any now, and that is not because of the PC brigade or us suddenly seeing the error of our ways. It is because times change. The Tagets for jokes are usually people who annoy us. In the 1980s, the IRA were the scurge, so anti Irish jokes were prevelent. Now it is muslim terrorists, so jokes aimed at muslim countries/people are popular.
Multiculturism (if by that you mean the increase of people of different races living in the UK) is not to blame for terrorist attacks. We have had muslims living in this country for tens of decades, and it is only recently that there have been murderous attacks on us.
What has happened in the last couple of decades is a huge increase in wars and instability in muslim lands. Rightly or wrongly, many blame the west for that and there has been an increase in the radicalisation especially in younger muslims.
Countries with a colonial past in muslim countries, who have a young population of second or third generation young muslims, are seeing them suddenly being radicalised and turning against their adoptive mother country.
Forty years ago we heard nothing but Irish man or Paddy jokes everywhere. You hardly ever hear any now, and that is not because of the PC brigade or us suddenly seeing the error of our ways. It is because times change. The Tagets for jokes are usually people who annoy us. In the 1980s, the IRA were the scurge, so anti Irish jokes were prevelent. Now it is muslim terrorists, so jokes aimed at muslim countries/people are popular.
Multiculturism (if by that you mean the increase of people of different races living in the UK) is not to blame for terrorist attacks. We have had muslims living in this country for tens of decades, and it is only recently that there have been murderous attacks on us.
What has happened in the last couple of decades is a huge increase in wars and instability in muslim lands. Rightly or wrongly, many blame the west for that and there has been an increase in the radicalisation especially in younger muslims.
Countries with a colonial past in muslim countries, who have a young population of second or third generation young muslims, are seeing them suddenly being radicalised and turning against their adoptive mother country.
As usual Mr Farage as presented some certain facts that Clegg would rather not here.
I have said in the last two days,"We have allowed an enemy within"
He has said today,"That the multi -culticulturalism has presented this country with a fifth column within who hate us and hold British passports." Just like France and the rest of Europe.
That is not political point scoring.That is the fact of the matter that the other mealy mouthed idiots do not want to be told that the concept has failed.Our guests do not want to integrate with us. They want to Subjugate us.
I have said in the last two days,"We have allowed an enemy within"
He has said today,"That the multi -culticulturalism has presented this country with a fifth column within who hate us and hold British passports." Just like France and the rest of Europe.
That is not political point scoring.That is the fact of the matter that the other mealy mouthed idiots do not want to be told that the concept has failed.Our guests do not want to integrate with us. They want to Subjugate us.
Hmm... Most of our "guests" do integrate, at least in the long run, and some idea that this sort of action is representative of all or most of those who come into our country is highly misleading and dangerous. Therein lies the rub, I guess. Multiculturalism has many benefits in the long-term, and risks in the short-term.
Most of the radicalised youth who are going to fight for ISIS are not 'guests' . They were born here. Their fathers and often grandfathers were born here. They are Second and third generation immigrants.
All the main Parties in the Commons have members with foreign parents or grandparents, yet they are not considered 'guests'.
All the main Parties in the Commons have members with foreign parents or grandparents, yet they are not considered 'guests'.
Well they certainly do not show any loyalty to this country no matter what generation they are.They are happy to run off to Yemen and Syria and return to THEIR country and try to kill and destroy us.They do not behave like loyal British citizens so I won't consider them as such but more like un desireable aliens.
Gromit
/// Forty years ago we heard nothing but Irish man or Paddy jokes everywhere. You hardly ever hear any now, and that is not because of the PC brigade or us suddenly seeing the error of our ways. It is because times change. The Tagets for jokes are usually people who annoy us. In the 1980s, the IRA were the scurge, so anti Irish jokes were prevelent. Now it is muslim terrorists, so jokes aimed at muslim countries/people are popular. ///
What a load of baloney, Irish jokes have been popular for years, not because of the IRA as you suggest, but because of some of their idiosyncratic ways, just like there have been jokes told of the English, the Scottish, and the Welsh.
You also say that it is not because of PC, are you not aware that it is now racist to make fun of the Irish
*** A man walked into a Dublin bar and saw a friend sitting with an empty glass.
‘Paddy can I buy you another’, he asked, to which Paddy replied –
‘now what would I be wanting with another empty glass?'” ***
*** Conservativehome reports that a councillor in Medway Kent was ordered to pay compensation on racist grounds to an Irish-born union official for telling this joke. Allowing for context, surely a piece of nonsense in 2010? ***
/// Multiculturism (oh look Canary Gromit spelt it wrong also) is not to blame for terrorist attacks. We have had muslims living in this country for tens of decades, and it is only recently that there have been murderous attacks on us. ///
Not in the masses that now inhabit this country, and how did I know you would finely put the blame on the West?
/// Forty years ago we heard nothing but Irish man or Paddy jokes everywhere. You hardly ever hear any now, and that is not because of the PC brigade or us suddenly seeing the error of our ways. It is because times change. The Tagets for jokes are usually people who annoy us. In the 1980s, the IRA were the scurge, so anti Irish jokes were prevelent. Now it is muslim terrorists, so jokes aimed at muslim countries/people are popular. ///
What a load of baloney, Irish jokes have been popular for years, not because of the IRA as you suggest, but because of some of their idiosyncratic ways, just like there have been jokes told of the English, the Scottish, and the Welsh.
You also say that it is not because of PC, are you not aware that it is now racist to make fun of the Irish
*** A man walked into a Dublin bar and saw a friend sitting with an empty glass.
‘Paddy can I buy you another’, he asked, to which Paddy replied –
‘now what would I be wanting with another empty glass?'” ***
*** Conservativehome reports that a councillor in Medway Kent was ordered to pay compensation on racist grounds to an Irish-born union official for telling this joke. Allowing for context, surely a piece of nonsense in 2010? ***
/// Multiculturism (oh look Canary Gromit spelt it wrong also) is not to blame for terrorist attacks. We have had muslims living in this country for tens of decades, and it is only recently that there have been murderous attacks on us. ///
Not in the masses that now inhabit this country, and how did I know you would finely put the blame on the West?
jim360
/// Multiculturalism has many benefits in the long-term, and risks in the short-term. ///
Multiculturalism has changed the whole face of England, (I put England because it is England that is taking the bulk of the problems).
Since mass immigration, we have seen riots and looting on the streets of some of our cities, we have seen shootings, stabbings, drug taking, and acts of terrorism, Female genital mutilation, Black Magic, forced marriages and honour killings etc, etc.
/// Multiculturalism has many benefits in the long-term, and risks in the short-term. ///
Multiculturalism has changed the whole face of England, (I put England because it is England that is taking the bulk of the problems).
Since mass immigration, we have seen riots and looting on the streets of some of our cities, we have seen shootings, stabbings, drug taking, and acts of terrorism, Female genital mutilation, Black Magic, forced marriages and honour killings etc, etc.
We saw such things before (not all of them, FGM was never a problem beforehand for example, as least so far as I am aware), and indeed at times in our history there has been even greater violence. And the 2011 riots, for example, had nothing to do with multiculturalism.
We can't hope to solve the problems we have if we misattribute the causes.
We can't hope to solve the problems we have if we misattribute the causes.
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