Should The British Government Do More To Prevent This Woman Facing The Firing Squad?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/british-grandmother-lindsay-saniford-faces-execution-by-firing-squad-in-indonesia-10002860.html

[jackthehat]

Distressing as it is, she broke their laws and is now subject to their justice.

Isn't that what you also regularly call out for in respect of foreign criminals in this country?

[mushroom25]

when I got my first passport in 1976, it came with a lot of points of advice, one of which was to not get involved in the smuggling of drugs and in particular, the penalty for so doing in certain Asian countries was death.

if the same advice is given out now, then I'm not sure what the government should be doing - she digested her warning and ignored it.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// Isn't that what you also regularly call out for in respect of foreign criminals in this country? ///

Hold on a minute JTH, don't put me down as being in defence of this woman, just asking the question so as to instil debate.

[tamborine]

She should be spared death with Brit intervention as u/m case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2717892/Peru-2-drug-smuggler-set-transferred-Northern-Ireland-prison-months-South-American-officials-agree-move.html

[B00]

No

[TWR]

No one has mentioned the results of the drug sales, what would this person say if her Grandson /Daughter fell ill / died through a Person doing what she got caught doing in the UK?

[jno]

in 1739, the mere cutting off of a British sailor's ear was enough to spark war with the Spanish empire. But it doesn't seem as though Britain defends its citizens with the same vigour any more.

So a perfect opportunity to invade another Muslim country is lost.

[naomi24]

No, I don’t think the government should intervene, but by the same token we shouldn’t refuse to extradite foreign criminals to face justice in other countries either. It seems we have some sort of dual policy on human rights.

[Old_Geezer]

What practical "more" were folk thinking of ?

I think there is a limit to what can be done if we are to respect a country's sovereignty. But one hopes/assumes all pleas for leniency and possible return home for British justice will be/has been made. There is a conflict of aims here, and a balance needs to be found. Are we sure that hasn't already been reached ?

Meanwhile Indonesia's error is that the syndicates don't care overly much for which "mules" are caught and killed. The loss of merchandise will be a pain but no doubt plenty of others will be on route. It is likely to prove to be simply an exercise in violent retribution against the vulnerable. Whether the story re coercion is true or not.

[Retrochic]

jno -why on earth should Britain defend this drug trafficker? If a foreign person commits a crime in the UK they are punished, why should it not be the same in Indonesia. She broke their Laws and this will send a stern message to anyone else thinking they can do the same and get off because they are from the UK.

[-Talbot-]

Whoooooosh

[Peter Pedant]

O really jno !

read more of your o level history book

In 1739 public outrage forced the then govt to declare war and the first minister ( not yet prime minister ) commented - they are ringing their bells and soon they will be wringing their hands ......

the 1860 Don Pacifico affair is a better example ( Palmerton loses power as a result )

and I agree with JTH
the question as put:

//should the govt do more to prevent this woman facing the firing squad//

does display the bleeding heart leftie sympathies that AOG was betraying during the Charlie Ebdo affair. Incredibly if you recall, AOG who is normally to the right on Goebbels was advocating Free SPEECH for chrissakes

[Peter Pedant]

Good film on this

Julie Christie stars as the mother of a drug smuggler who gets hanged in the end I regret to say.

[BlackadderV]

Remember this guy?

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-07-21/news/mn-4397_1_drug-trafficking

[Baldric]

//The British Government has refused to fund a second appeal for her//

They've tried once, she knew the rules, 'When in Rome etc'
why spend more Public Money on a Drug Smuggler.

[Peter Pedant]

ook at Midnight Express with Brad Davis ( later dead from AIDS )

or read - an alternative childhood by Timothy Davey


To a certain extent like the Wigan girls - they knew and accepted the risks

[youngmafbog]

Good, one less drug smuggler around to wreck many peoples lives.

The Government should do nothing, she committed a crime in another country let them deal with her as they see fit.

[agchristie]

No.Looking very bleak for her now,she still has the appeal for clemency but with the new leader's hardline approach,she needs a miracle.

[Answerprancer]

"Hold on a minute JTH, don't put me down as being in defence of this woman..."
...she didn't, that's *your* interpretation.
Are you unable to answer the question ...Captain Spell-checker?
Perhaps JTH's question is also there to "instil debate".

[Answerprancer]

Interesting to see that this question has effectively pulled a few "death penalty for drug smugglers" advocates out of the woodwork.
For what else should we advocate the death penalty ..theft? fiddling tax returns? coughing without due care and attention?
And I get slammed for labeling people 'fascists'.