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Immigration
On today's Jeremy Vine Show, David Cameron said immigration has been good for Britain. Can anyone tell me in what way(s) this is true?
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By the way, if you're the real Vernon Kaye, can I ask, when are we going to be seeing you on telly again?
I miss you and your enormous teeth.
Oh, and say 'hello' to Tess for me please.
By the way, if you're the real Vernon Kaye, can I ask, when are we going to be seeing you on telly again?
I miss you and your enormous teeth.
Oh, and say 'hello' to Tess for me please.
Independent studies repeatedly show that immigration benefits the UK financially.
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A study by the Office for Budget Responsibility strongly suggests that the UK needs MORE immigrants:
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A study by the Office for Budget Responsibility strongly suggests that the UK needs MORE immigrants:
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Hardly more people paying tax if all they have done is taken job positions that ought to be taken by those already here. Still x employees paying £y tax.
Removing the incentive to train and pay native health workers and becoming dependent on stealing talent from abroad, is hardly helpful long term either.
Again, given that immigrants will be taking job positions that ought to be filled by those already here, then those who are unemployed as a result will be claiming benefits, negating any imagined financial benefits from immigrants.
Unless there are *additional* job positions to fill, then pulling in more immigrants to solve today's issues can not help with any increased demand from an ageing population. It is the job positions that create wealth and therefore tax revenue that is important; not increasing the population so the numbers are greater and more of an issue for the following generation to cope with.
In reality it is difficult to find any real medium to long term benefit and even the short term fixes are on dodgy ground.
Cameron does himself no favours by proving once again that politicians don't have a blessed clue.
Removing the incentive to train and pay native health workers and becoming dependent on stealing talent from abroad, is hardly helpful long term either.
Again, given that immigrants will be taking job positions that ought to be filled by those already here, then those who are unemployed as a result will be claiming benefits, negating any imagined financial benefits from immigrants.
Unless there are *additional* job positions to fill, then pulling in more immigrants to solve today's issues can not help with any increased demand from an ageing population. It is the job positions that create wealth and therefore tax revenue that is important; not increasing the population so the numbers are greater and more of an issue for the following generation to cope with.
In reality it is difficult to find any real medium to long term benefit and even the short term fixes are on dodgy ground.
Cameron does himself no favours by proving once again that politicians don't have a blessed clue.
If "Wanted Down Under" is anything to go by, British-trained nurses and their plumber/sparks/builder husbands are heading for Oz or the States, in search of better rates of pay. Our brain-drain is creating at least some of these vacancies, so we are 'brain-drain'ing some less well-off parts of the world.
@O_G,
If you move 10,000 people from dozens of countries into the UK, to do x amount of work, you'll need another 1000 or so to service the needs of this small 'town', which wasn't here last year. In my books, there is economic growth in that last 1000 (service industries).
@O_G,
If you move 10,000 people from dozens of countries into the UK, to do x amount of work, you'll need another 1000 or so to service the needs of this small 'town', which wasn't here last year. In my books, there is economic growth in that last 1000 (service industries).
If you believe Jaques Peretti's recent films (BBC2) about the super-rich, the Russian oligarchs, who are currently distorting our housing market) are, alone, responsible for the tiny percentage growth on GDP which the ONS were so proud to announce, the other day.
Do oligarchs count as immigrants too?
Do oligarchs count as immigrants too?
O_G's approach would be correct if every person was regarded as a fully flexible unit of labour that could move between plumbing, electrician, nurse, cleaner, but the labour market just doesn't work like that. It does show though that we are not investing enough in the training of nurses and others with key skills
Immigration has to be meaningful and beneficial to a country. Saying 'Immigration is good' is too simplistic a view as certain facets of immigration is detrimental. Its about getting the balance right.
Unfortunately the UK offers the level of comforts that attracts too much of the wrong type of immigration.
Unfortunately the UK offers the level of comforts that attracts too much of the wrong type of immigration.
If the system worked properly and the job pay & conditions were deemed acceptable to someone in this country then there would be sufficient incentive for locals to take up the jobs on offer.
I do not accept anyone has to be a fully flexible unit of labour, merely that there should be sufficient training to ensure enough skilled folk in different professions/trades to cover the job opportunities that exist. But many companies/organisations seem to expect not to have to train, but to simply advertise a position and employ labour trained by someone else (even if they import folk to do so).
I do not accept anyone has to be a fully flexible unit of labour, merely that there should be sufficient training to ensure enough skilled folk in different professions/trades to cover the job opportunities that exist. But many companies/organisations seem to expect not to have to train, but to simply advertise a position and employ labour trained by someone else (even if they import folk to do so).
