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This is worth listening to
A lot it comes from racist left-wing thugs AOG.
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RandyMarsh

/// we are not the world AOG. ///

Don't you ever think things through before you post your ridiculous 'one liners'.

The newsreels of these atrocities where screened all over the world, (and before you jump in) that is of course all those countries that happen to have cinemas.

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/// I can think of a lot to disagree with the State of Israel and its foreign Policy. But that is Politics not religion. To voice concerns about its treatment of others is not anti-semitic. ///

Quite agree, and if you were to refer to my past posts on this subject you wil find that I have not been backward at voicing my concerns towards Israel's brutal and savage actions against the Palestinian people.

/// Unfortunately, Jewish Politicians and their supporters here regard any criticism of Israel to equate with hating the Jews and being anti-semitic. ///

And can't the same be said about those on here, including yourself, who label anyone who dares to criticise the actions of some Muslims as Islamaphobic, racist etc, etc?

/// The Community Security Trust does not differentiate. Any criticism of Israel is recorded as a hate crime. Which is why I do not believe their
figures. ///

Seems strange that it only you who does not believe the C S T figures, none of main media outlets have voiced the same.
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And can't the same be said about those on here, including yourself, who label anyone who dares to criticise the actions of some Muslims as Islamaphobic, racist etc, etc?

Thing is - some people who constantly air these views genuinely ARE racist.

These people have the simple 'get out clause' - they can say anything they want, and claim not to be racist, even if there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

There's no getting around the fact that there are racists in the UK. We have not reached some utopia where they have all ceased to exist.
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sp1814

You take a passage from a reply that I made to Gromit and turned it round to spout forth your own particular agenda.

What you copied and pasted was a reply I gave to this passage:

*** Unfortunately, Jewish Politicians and their supporters here regard any criticism of Israel to equate with hating the Jews and being anti-semitic. ***

My point was that some are always ready to pin certain labels on some but are not prepared to pin certain other labels upon themselves.

/// These people have the simple 'get out clause' - they can say anything they want, and claim not to be racist, even if there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. ///

Overwhelming evidence from whom, those who wish to put an end to free speech by pinning certain out of date label upon them, all designed to frighten the more timid into submission? But this kind of thing is all wearing a little thin and more and more are waking up to the fact that names don't hurt them any more.

/// There's no getting around the fact that there are racists in the UK. We have not reached some utopia where they have all ceased to exist. ///

Of course there are racists in the UK and there will always be so, but racism isn't just confined to a certain race or colour it is epidemic among all.


It's a common theme for people to disguise their racism against Jews as anti-Zionism
So we are not allowed to crticise Israel?
I will criticise Israel as much as I want thank you. Their actions are appalling and I heartily disapprove.
That's not anti-semetic because it's policy, not religion I have a problem with.
I don't give a monkey's which sky fairy is your favourite.
I am simply saying that it is common for Judeophobic's to hide or disguise their racism against Jews as anti-Zionism. No need for the drama.
Looks like you touched a nerve there, Oderlimit, with that simple statement of fact.
I can criticise UK and US foreign Policy.

But if I criticise Israel's Foreign Policy it is because I am hiding my anti-semiticism. I don't think so.

I am not any any side when it comes to religion, I think they are all nonsense.
It goes on svejk :)

The Judeophobes are also claiming the rise in racism and hate crimes against the Jews are all lies and manufactured (no doubt the same people who are obsessed with calling other people racist and all the other phobic words when skin colour is a factor). Strange world
sp1814
That could be anyone from Muslims to traditional right wing racists.



I think if it were 'traditional right wing racists' we would know about, wouldn't we?
You're starting to sound a bit like AOG gromit. If every other question you asked was about jews I might start to worry.

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