No Oyinbos Here.

[-Talbot-]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/this-flat-blacks-only-shocking-5193505

Well they do say 'thing have to get worse before they get better'

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //the protagonist concerned, who has now flounced off and refuses to debate with me anymore.

Although he does keep responding to my posts advising him that I am ignoring him.//

He refuses to debate with you and you are ignoring him. Reading that, I’m not sure who is refusing to debate with whom – but it sounds like problem solved.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "andy-hughes, //the protagonist concerned, who has now flounced off and refuses to debate with me anymore.

Although he does keep responding to my posts advising him that I am ignoring him.//

He refuses to debate with you and you are ignoring him. Reading that, I’m not sure who is refusing to debate with whom – but it sounds like problem solved."

I'd agree - there is a limit to how much 'me me me' I can take from said other poster, so it is probably best for all if we simply don't argue with each other any more.

[retrocop]

sp
Yes I might, indeed, well think that and why would I or others not think that to be a potential scenario.
History tells us that it is the usual scenario that ensues when a certain section of society with a ghetto mentality are challenged or taken to task by the authorities for wrong doing
You of all people would refute that though wouldn't you? Must dash will join you later.

[Barmaid]

//Move the victim not the problem...is that the answer, Sandy?//

No it isnt the answer. It is an answer regularly used by Housing Associations though. Whilst they all make lots of noise about treating anti-social behaviour seriously, the reality is that the cost of investigating this sort of stuff and then bringing a case to Court to have the perpetrators evicted mean that the path of least resistance is often taken and thus the victim is moved.

[-Talbot-]

Well I do know that to be absolutely true, Barmaid
but surely the answer can not be to move a black family in..can it?

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

I will put you in the picture, the poster said he would ignore any further posts from me, yet he later went to the trouble of copying and pasting three further post that I entered, and then adding the words "Ignored - as advised". at the base of the said posts.

[naomi24]

AOG, I have no intention of getting into whatever dispute you two are into, but thanks anyway. andy-hughes’ statement just seemed entirely irrational to me, that’s all – but I think my observation went over his head.

[naomi24]

No idea.

[ludwig]

On the matter in hand, the culprits here should be found and evicted. The victim shouldn't have to move, although I wouldn't blame her for wanting to.

[naomi24]

^I agree – and I disagree with andy-hughes who said // I seriously doubt that is based on over-sensitivity towards one ethnic group - it is more likely an across-the-board absence of funds that is to blame.//

I do think the sensitivities of ethnic minorities are given greater consideration than those of the rest of us.

[bazwillrun]

"there is a massive ex-pat British community in Spain, plenty of whom refuse to learn the language and integrate with the local population "

not my problem, thats for the spanish to deal with, I live here and am watching my country slowly implode.....

same old story isnt it ..whites do it its racist ...anybody else "oh its a cultural thing etc etc blah blah"

[bazwillrun]

"the poster said he would ignore any further posts from me,"

AOG, i have people on here do the same with me...like I am bothered.....but you can bet your bottom doallar theyre reading everything you post and foaming at the mouth and spitting feathers etc etc

[douglas9401]

sp1814 is currently enjoying some winter sun in Egypt including a cruise on denial.

[retrocop]

douglas
Think you are correct in that assumption
"OOps this racist thing seems to occur both ways. Better duck under the parapet and take a powder,my bros have really left me with a red face on this one.What fairy tales can I counter this with without being accused of being in denial?"

[Hypognosis]

TIL "Oyinbo"

(Today, I learned…)

On a point of pedantry, I would claim that a ghetto is something you - and others like you - are coralled into. The essence being that, in 1930s Germany and the Pale Of Settlement (Russia), it was largely involutary resettlement.

Actively 'taking' an area is just old fashioned colonialism and I don't need to repeat the regard in which the present day holds that behaviour.

Making yourself at home is a normal human thing to do. Extending that to making an area your own is subtly different but it is hard for me to decide where the line between that an quasi-imperialism belongs.

Don't forget that there are predominanty white towns who don't even like the white people from the town just down the road so picking apart which bits of this behaviour tendency is racially based and which is merely territorial is not always clear cut.

Anyway, I'd guess that part of the "right-on" crowd's plan to do away with racial discrimination and harrassment was probably that there would be no 'payback' behaviour. I cannot begin to guess how much of that there has been but will regard this case as exceptional, otherwise we'd be cut'n'pasting old stories already. I may have been 'sheltered' but my sense is that, nobly, we've had next to no payback for things (of this ilk) done to minorities from the 1950s onwards.

[anotheoldgit]

Still no sign of sp1814, I wonder why?