Rape Is The Girls Fault Apparently !

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31698154

I have read this twice and I still find it difficult to believe.

[Peter Pedant]

There are difficulties in Delhi - one of my colleagues said she wouldnt go out of the house if she lived there.

[anotheoldgit]

And this type of mindset has been imported into our country, frightening.

[mikey4444]

PP...from the article, it would seem that its India in general that has a problem. The really chilling factor in this man's testimony is that he is educated...to quote from the article.... "ordinary, apparently normal and certainly unremarkable men"

If this is indicative of the opinions of such people, then India has really serious problems. Appalling.

[Cloverjo]

It's terrible, Mikey. Hard to believe people still have these attitudes. Good to see that some Indians are standing against them, though.

[SeaJayPea]

Yes, I've just been reading the same thing, Mikey , and it's frightening. And, before the misinformed start, may I point out that the main man's name is Singh, which makes him a Hindu or Sikh. He's very unlikely to be a Muslim.

Also, it wasn't that many years ago that a judge in this country said that a rape victim had contributed to the offence because she was dressed 'provocatively'. Probably no more than 20.

This film will be interesting viewing, not least because she's highlighting the fact that very many younger Indians believe this guy's views to be outdated and that there is hope for the future. We changed, let's hope they can.

[naomi24]

Why is it hard to believe and why are you surprised? This backward attitude towards women is not confined to India.

[Svejk]

///The really chilling factor in this man's testimony is that he is educated..///
I can think of worse things.

[Svejk]

///And, before the misinformed start, may I point out that the main man's name is Singh, which makes him a Hindu or Sikh. He's very unlikely to be a Muslim.///
Such arrogance.

[mikey4444]

Naomi...never said it was confined to India but India is the country under debate. Men everywhere need some very urgent re-education, if they share this attitude. And as SJP has pointed out, there are some people, even here in Britain, who think that its a girls fault if she is raped " because she was asking for it"

I hope I never stop being shocked about stories of this kind.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //never said it was confined to India //

I know you didn't but in the light of SeaJayPea's post, it's worth pointing out that it isn't confined to India.

[mikey4444]

SJP...I didn't think it would be too long before somebody managed to fit in a comment about Muslims here in Britain ! The Hindu population of Britain is very small compared to the Muslim one. I have seen no evidence of reports of widespread sexual abuse within the Hindu community.

So, can we stay on topic everybody...please ! This is about India, the fastest growing country in the world, with a burgeoning presence in the modern industries.

[Svejk]

The first person to mention muslims WAS sjp.

[Peter Pedant]

// ///And, before the misinformed start, may I point out that the main man's name is Singh, which makes him a Hindu or Sikh. He's very unlikely to be a Muslim./// Such arrogance. ( Schweik)

Nope. I wondered if all Singhs were sikhs and here is complete answer from the internet. One man's arrogance is another man's "good question I wonder what the answer is"



First of all "Singh" is NOT a surname. It is MIDDLE name. But, some people use it as a surname and omit there actual surname for various reasons (mostly because their parents or grandparents didn't believe in caste system and didn't want it to carry on, but there can be other reasons). Singh means "Lion". The more accurate romanization of the Sanskrit word is "Simha" but as it is colloquially pronounced as "Singh", that became the widely used spelling.


Secondly, MOST PEOPLE with Singh in their name (middle or surname) are Hindus (from both Nepal and India). But MOST SIKHS (male) would have Singh in their name. Gurugobind Singh, The 10th Guru of Sikhs made "Singh" mandatory for every "baptized" male in 1699. Singh is also used by Sinhalese people in Sri Lanka. Infact Sinhala word itself is derived from Sinha (Lion) + Hela (Pristine). You can also find a Lion on Sri Lanka's flag.


There are many Sikhs now especially in cities who don't use "Singh". But if you look outside India/Nepal, because there are a large number of Sikh expats, it is possible that a person with "Singh" in their name is moste like a Sikh. But it not the case in India.
Source:[ Neha ] I am from India

[mikey4444]

"And this type of mindset has been imported into our country, frightening"

I am not sure that AOG was implying that our British Hindu population was involved in the kind of thing that the OP was concerned with ? So who could he have meant I wonder ?

[sandyRoe]

A rape by any other name would smell as rank.

[naomi24]

Discussing this mentality which is rife not only in this area is on topic, but heaven forbid we mention the unmentionable. They get enough bad press, eh Mikey? ;o)

[mikey4444]

Just trying to keep the debate on topic, thats all Naomi !

[naomi24]

//I am not sure that AOG was implying that our British Hindu population was involved in the kind of thing that the OP was concerned with ? So who could he have meant I wonder ? //

Really?

[andy-hughes]

Yet another example of human nature - if you can make someone else responsible for your actions, it excuses you from the tiresome task of having to take responsibility for your own actions.

This man believes that it was the victim's fault, therefore it is not his fault, and he is not to blame.

It is human nature writ large, but part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for your behaviour and its consequences, and to simply pass it off as someone else's fault is not good enough.

[mikey4444]

Well deserved BA Andy !