Great News - Teenager Travelling To Syria Charged With Terrorist Offence

[Gromit]

The bad news - She was going to fight ISIS. The Kurdish fighters are not designated Terrorists by the UK.

// A teenager from London, who was allegedly trying to join a Kurdish military women’s unit fighting ISIS in Syria, has been charged with a terrorist offence.

Shilan Ozcelik, who is of Kurdish descent, was arrested earlier this year at Stansted airport. She is believed to be the first British citizen to be arrested for trying to join the campaign against the jihadis who control eastern Syria and western Iraq.

Ozcelik, from Holloway, north London, faces one charge of engaging in conduct in preparation for giving effect to an intention to commit acts of terrorism under the 2006 Terrorism Act.

Her supporters say she travelled to Brussels in an attempt to join the women’s protection units, also known as YPJ, that are based in Rojava – the Kurdish enclave in northern Syria under attack by ISIS.

She was arrested by on 16 January at as she returned from Brussels. Neither the YPJ nor the YPG, the main men’s Kurdish peshmerga militia in northern Syria, are banned organisations in the UK. //

The Foreign Office really do not know after all this time, whose side to support in Syria. It seems like madness to arrest someone who was going to fight ISIS.

Should we be prosecuting people who want to kill ISIS combatants?

[Gromit]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/13/british-teenage-girl-charged-kurdish-forces-fighting-isis

[Svejk]

The day after the 3 Isis 'brides' were promised immunity from prosecution. Cultural Marxism has infested and ruined this country.

[Gromit]

// Cultural Marxism //

Your on form today.
What has the Foreign Office not knowing its ar se from its elbow got to do with Marxism?

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

All beginning to make sense now that I have searched out the link.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/13/british-teenage-girl-charged-kurdish-forces-fighting-isis

/// The charges against Ozcelik are understood to relate to the Kurdistan Workers party (PKK), which is outlawed in Britain and has spent decades fighting the Turkish army in a separatist conflict. ///

You must really try to obey the site's advice Gromit, and where necessary supply the link.

*** It is common practice to offer a link to the news article you would like to discuss. ***

[anotheoldgit]

I apologise Gromit I now notice that you added a link.

[Baldric]

AOG, see 13:28 ^^^^^

[icecreamicecream]

Shouldn't it be a case of my enemys enemy is my friend?Assad is against alquaeda,is against ISIS ,surely we should be giving him as much support as possible.Iwas earlier derided for my support of Stalin during the second world war,but this situation in the middle east is the same thing i.e.nominally enemies fighting together to defeat a common enemy i.e.islamofascsm.

[Baldric]

X'ed Posts!

[Gromit]

Too late to be smug AOG, I supplied the link 10 seconds after the original post, nearly an hour ago.

[Gromit]

A bit more info on the YPJ.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Kurdish-Women-Turning-Kobani-into-a-Living-Hell-for-Islamic-State-20141014-0072.html

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

So sorry to see that you failed to take my apology in the gentlemanly way that it was offered.

[Gromit]

Apologies AOG, I was a bit churlish. I'm sorry for being a bit of a tit.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

I still see that you are ignoring that certain extract from the Guardian, but then that would prevent you from using your thread to get over your usual anti-British remarks aimed at the Foreign Office.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Oh dear crossed post again, when you have addressed my apology statement so well, sorry.

[baza]

Handbags at dawn ?
Someday the government might make a decision as to who is our enemy and who is not.

[Gromit]

There appeears to be a broad Kurdish Coalition of basically everyone to combat ISIS. The YPJ are not connected to the PKK, though they may be fighting side by side I will be interested to see if this makes it to court and whether the prosecution is successful. One to return to in a few months.

[icecreamicecream]

If we could make an ally of uncle joe couldn't we also make an ally of Assad,For Funks Sake it aint rocket science!

[retrocop]

My word Gromit.
Change of heart all of a sudden? It is common knowledge that Muslims agree an eye for an eye or a tooth for a tooth type of revenge.
All those women and children who fled ISIS an left to die on a mountain without food or water.They fled because their children were butchered by ISIS.Now what if Kurdish fighters seek out ISIS training camps and seek revenge on the ISIS children who are being trained as terrorists.
Would that be good news or bad news in your eyes?

[Orderlimit]

" The YPJ are not connected to the PKK"

Gromit, I think YPJ (and YPG) must be be part of the PKK or there wouldn't be this prosecution?.

Perhaps Ms Ozcelik, would have been successful if she tried to join up with one of the independent groups fighting alongside YPG/YPJ, and got round the law that way.