Why Does Labour Find Prosperity So Offensive?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32142304
High earners already pay more tax, that's how proportional systems work.

[mushroom25]

"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need".

that's the mantra, isn't it?

[naomi24]

^That's a system whereby those who claim not to have the ability are propped up by the rest of society and hence relieved of all personal responsibility.

[Jackdaw33]

"He who does not work shall not eat."

V.I. Lenin

[bazwillrun]

Do as I say not as I do....

and the politics of eny of course...

[Old_Geezer]

They don't which is why they are critical at how long it's taken the present government to claw out of the mess the banks dumped everyone in.

[Jackdaw33]

This should really be in jokes but it is apposite to this thread.

A union was holding a mass meeting in the factory yard when a convoy of cars carrying the directors passed them.

The shop steward turned to the men and said, "Look there, these directors smoking their fat cigars and you having to smoke Woodbines. When we have a socialist government you'll all be smoking cigars."

A voice at the back said, "I like Woodbines, I don't like cigars."

The shop steward replied, "Brother, when we have a socialist government you'll smoke what you're bloody well told to smoke!"

[DTCwordfan]

During a heated radio debate on R4 today, John Humphries said to Ed Miliband, "You can't just point at things and tax them."

He replied, "That'll be fifty quid."

[zebo]

Surely, it's only other people's prosperity they object to, not their own. There's a huge gulf in the Labour Party between the true, traditional Labour supporters and the chattering intelligentsia who would die if they had to live as the true supporters live.

[venator]

That's obvious in the name - Labour

The party is owned and funded by the trade unions - yes, those people who chose Ed the plonker instead of his brother.

Ed has called the energy companies, bankers and tobacco companies the enemy. Freeze their prices, tax their mansions, grab their bonuses and impose levies on them.

Dust off the red flag, brothers

[jomifl]

I could afford to be a socialist if I had a millionaire father, as it is I didn't so I can't.

[naomi24]

//There's a huge gulf in the Labour Party between the true, traditional Labour supporters and the chattering intelligentsia ...//

Try telling that to the stalwarts who carry on regardless voting as their old dads did. It's staring them in the face - but they won't believe you.

[jim360]

*fingers in ears* Not listening, Na na na!

But seriously... Labour has changed even in the time I've been paying attention. I can only assume that for some people this does not matter so long as Labour isn't the Tory party.

[zebo]

The nearest I ever came to getting a smack round the ear from my Mother, who would have voted for a goat with a Labour rosette round its neck, was when I said she would get along famously with Mrs T, they seemed to agree on everything!

[Deskdiary]

Those with the broadest shoulders already are carrying the heavier burden - twas ever thus.

I suspect he's talking about the increase for the >£150k earners to 50%: this is sop politics of the worst kind and is there simply to mollify the jealous given that last time there was a 50p rate the total tax take from those paying the highest rate of tax was less than before the hike.

[Deskdiary]

Are there any other people on this site who find this immoral?

It genuinely puzzles me that those that strive to achieve the most they possibly can in life, become successful and are among the largest contributors to the tax coffers, will then be punished for their success by the imposition of a substantial tax hike.

[venator]

Where are all the socialists?

It/s no fun when we all agree

[Gromit]

It doesn't.

When Blair/Brown took over in 1997, the halved the deficit they inherited from Major in the first year. They then went on to record a surplus (they raised more money than they spent) for 4 straight years. That raised £40billion and they were able to reduce the national debt.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/20/1363802502484/Deficits-by-chancellor-001.jpg

Remember, the national debt cannot be reduced while the Government is borrowing, and Osborne is borrowing a lot. Osborne has managed to double the national debt in one term. It is now £1.5trillion.

[venator]

Thanks, Gromit - we can have fun now

Looking at your Guardian graph, it appears that Labour must have left the economy in surplus with loads of dosh in the kitty

Where did this remarkable graph come from?

[Quizmonster]

I'm sure I've mentioned this to you before, Gromit, but it's utterly futile pointing out the truth to some people; they just don't get it.

[dave50]

So Gromit, from what you have just said, that the coalition have been spending way too much and so we must cut spending drastically to reduce the deficit.