Why So Many People Want To Vote Ukip

[retrocop]

VHG
Have you trawled through these 3 OP's today?They are on News section.
1. Last Night's debate
2.Labour supporters,Would you take Power at any cost.
3. Europe and Immigration.

I am amazed at the amount of ABers who are popping up like jack rabbits and are agreeing with pretty much all what UKIP's manifesto states.Like me they like what a straight talking man has to say and isn't scared to say it but will not give him their vote because of letting Labour into No 10.
Unfortunately at this young stage of UKIP's standing it will be a wasted vote.
That is my opinion.Take what you want from those who differ.

[Alex99]

It wouldn't be a wasted vote if we ended up with a Tory - UKIP coalition !
Unlikely ? stranger things have happened.

[retrocop]

I wish my dream would come true. :-)

[Gromit]

This is the fifth election UKIP have thought so not exactly a young party.

Our voting system does not favour small extreme parties (right or left), so UKIP will get a single figure number of MPs. Probably not enough to prop up a Conservative Party without a majority.

UKIP are supported by a small minority of mainly Euro Skeptic Tories, exercising their protest vote. They won't get anywhere, and if Farage fails to get elected and resigns as he has promised to, they will implode after 5th May.

[Svejk]

5th of May? Have your mates 'sorted' the postal votes.

[david small]

With that attitude Ukip will take several elections to gain enough political clout to make a real difference. Ukip needs all votes and needs them NOW.
You want change? Reach for it....the iron is hot.

[waterboatman]

I agree with you David. If you like what UKIP are saying, then vote for them, it's not a vote for labour, that is just Tory scaremongering. A vote for UKIP is a vote for UKIP. If enough people who like Nigel Farage is saying then vote for them. It would make a great deal of difference.

[Gromit]

UKIP will get a very healthy share of the vote, but that will not translate into many seats.
They will get many votes from people who normally vote Conservative because they are a right of centre party. They will cause great disruption to the two party system but they will not reap the benefits.

[Svejk]

No answer to my question, gromit?
This might be the last chance to save the country. Other parties will give children the vote (and they ain't voting UKIP)
Cram as many enrichers in as can fit in the country (ditto)
If Labour somehow fix enough postal voted seats to get in, they're taking control of the press and the internet and introducing a raft of new 'thought crimes'. It will be illegal to criticize immigration or immigrants for a start.
Orwell had it right, just had the wrong year.

[mikey4444]

Gromit...well said at 02:00, although our "righties" refuse to recognise the common sense of what you say. I shall probably get in to trouble for pointing the obvious, as I normally do, but its like water of a ducks back to me.

Some of them get so upset, that they have their posts removed !

[-Talbot-]

Some of them get so upset, that they don't return to the thread !

[naomi24]

This is nothing but spin – but no change there from Gromit and Mikey. I’m surprised they’re not dizzy! Ukip decimated Labour’s large majority at Heywood and Middleton so they are clearly not snatching votes from Conservatives alone as you two would have us believe. The truth is they garner support from all sides and for the same reasons. People are fed up with Europe and they’re fed up with uncontrolled immigration. ‘Right’ and ‘left’ don’t come into it. However, when it comes to the general election although people of all political persuasions will be tempted to vote Ukip, I think they will be reluctant to do so simply because they feel that most will stick with the two main parties and therefore their vote will be wasted.

[Gromit]

Svejk

Sorry didn't see your question. Yes I got the date wrong. I posted at 2am after a night out.
I assume by 'sorted' you mean 'fixed' or 'fraudulently cast'. No need to, as I said, the whole voting system is stacked heavily against small parties. If UKIP get beat, it will be fair and square, no need for

[Gromit]

Naomi,

If you read my second post naomi, I say UKIP will get a good share of the vote, but it will do them no good. That is exactly what happened at Middleton and Heywood. History tells us that by election results should not be projected nationally.

I also disagree with your analysis of UKIP voters switching back to the main parties for fear of wasting their votes. UKIP will smash their 2010 record of the number of voters it gets. They will get a huge share of the vote, and come second in many seats. They may even get more votes than the LibDems depending on how badly their vote collapses. But after all that they will have little to show for it exceptish a handful (probably less than 10) MPs.

[naomi24]

Gromit, I did read your post. However, I think you’re overlooking the implication of the result of the Middleton and Heywood by-election. It did Ukip no practical good – they didn’t win – but it was highly damaging to Labour.

I think the LibDems are pretty much dead ducks so there could be a metaphorical gap to fill, but I’m not sure Ukip will do as well as you expect in the General Election. We shall see. It will make interesting watching.

[ichkeria]

The predictions of no of seats consistently show UKIP getting one seat - presumably Carswell, conspicuous by his absence at the UKIP manifesto launch
UKIP hardly registers at all with the young and very poorly with female voters.
A better performance presumably depends on either their appeal widening somehow between now and May 7 or the elderly gentlemen of Britain turning out in force on that day :-)

[whiskeryron]

// Our voting system does not favour small extreme parties (right or left), so UKIP will get a single figure number of MPs. Probably not enough to prop up a Conservative Party without a majority.// So seriously it's time we demanded a change to our defaulted voting system, after all in this so called democracy ??? some voters are being left behind.

[Old_Geezer]

"Why So Many People Want To Vote Ukip"

You understand we are still in the EU and need a clear indication to the government that we never voted to be in it, do not appreciate being dictated to by it, and wish them to get us out so we can concentrate of running our own country and back to putting right our own government's erroneous decisions ?

[whiskeryron]

Well said OG