Judy And Punch; Nightmare Scenario For Uk?

[Khandro]

Sturgeon + Milliband, could anything be worse for Britain, It couldn't really happen, could it?

[Ellipsis]

As I understand it, it would not be Miliband and Sturgeon but Miliband and the leader of the SNP in Westminster - who may or may not be Salmond. Sturgeon is not even running for Westminster, remember, she is a MSP and so it's in the Scottish Parliament that she'll be spending her time.

I feel a bit sorry for the Labour Party. There are several candidates for the left wng vote, like Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid and the Greens. On the right there is only one serious challenger to the Tory vote, which is UKIP. So the left vote is fragmented and Labour suffers from that, making it unlikely that Labour will win the next election outright. But if Labour forms some kind of alliance with the SNP to get power,the likely outcome is that over the course of the following five years they will upset (to put it mildly) the English majority vote so much that Labour will not have another sniff of power for 15-20 years; and it could actually be in the SNP's interests to promote this outcome, as it has a strong chance of delivering them Scottish independence, which would mess up the Labour Party's future in England even more. So it appears to me that, unless they win an outright majority, the Labour Party is in a lot of trouble over the next few years - and, even if they do win that majority, it will only stretch these troubles out a little longer, not resolve them.

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Slapshot

Extract from an article yesterday.
//Today, on the street outside, I meet several former Labour voters who might have good things to say about sitting Labour MP Ann McKechin but they will still vote for an SNP candidate they cannot name.

Miss McKechin points out: ‘There hasn’t been a single new house built in this constituency in a year and that is down to an SNP Scottish government but they are blaming us.’//


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THE CORBYLOON

//I did not say you had used the abusive phrase toward anne so do not start on that track. How about you explain why offspring are not allowed to have different views from their parents.//
Wilkepedia

// Her mother, Joan, is the SNP Provost of North Ayrshire council, where she has been councillor for the Irvine East ward since 2007.//

If her parents are SNP as written above then I would assume that Sturgeon,as leader,would be singing from the same hymn sheet wouldn't you.
Strange that a party that represents Scotland has members who have opposite views when it suits, even more so, when related.

[THECORBYLOON]

If MPs from the same party can have opposing views I see no reason why a leader and a councillor cannot also differ even if they are daughter and mother.

David Lloyd George, the last Liberal PM had a daughter, Megan, who was a Liberal MP and deputy leader of the Party but went on to stand as and become, a Labour MP.

[Slapshot]

Retro..... no argument but if the finance isn't there to create a programme they won't do it.... I seem to remember a similar comment from Ann Mckechin defending the the lack of action from when the reds were in power too... pick your colour, they are all as bad as one another.

Secondly, Scotland and the SNP's borrowing powers are non existant, any capital projects are triggered by Westminster, no-one else.

Lastly, Joan is a friend of my mums and a decent person. She's only interested in local issues under a broad spectrum of SNP general policy, different things affect different areas. What the SNP do at local council level in Ayrshire is probably very different than they do here in Aberdeen.

[Khandro]

Interesting points Ellipsis, - the "Mili-mond" scenario sounds even more terrifying, what kind of legacy these two clowns could leave for our grandchildren doesn't bear thinking about.