Islamophobia

[tonyav]

Is Miliband after the Muslim vote !.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/generalelection2015/general-election-2015-labour-will-toughen-hate-crimes-legislation-surrounding-islamophobia/ar-BBiFsUq

[Svejk]

http://pamelageller.com/2015/04/attacks-on-muslims-will-become-specific-hate-crime-as-conservative-party-tries-to-establish-full-extent-of-islamophobia-in-britain.html/

[Svejk]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/theresa-may-says-antimuslim-hate-crime-would-be-a-more-serious-offence-under-a-tory-government-10157112.html

[vetuste_ennemi]

Lafayette Ron Hubbard was a self-seeking *** who promoted a bully-boy cult for profit. (VE comment: not aware that he murdered or raped anyone.)
Joseph Smith was similar (but with a stronger sexual appetite, and a propensity to murder), also for profit. Record of murder and sexual predation well documented.
Mohammed was similar, but with greater disposition to violence, torture and rape. Very well documented in all Islamic "holy" sources.
Which of the above statements are:
(a) fair comment;
(b) hate crimes?

[Baldric]

Take me to your Leader,

Err, on second thoughts, maybe not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xBSmZr9p0w

[Svejk]

I think with hate crimes, ve, they're hate crimes when someone decides they are. And Muslims have a first-class grievance machine already in place. (paid for by us)

[naomi24]

Svejk, your link is to American Pamela Geller's website. Funny, I didn't think what you said had made the papers in this country. Attempting to establish the full extent of Islamophobia - and anti-Semitism - in Britain doesn't compare to what Miliband is suggesting. I might have missed it - bit tired - but I can't see a reference to any such promise from Cameron - in fact I can't see his name there at all.

[Svejk]

Second link is English. It's con party policy and I heard him trumpeting it on the radio. Don't actually have a link to that.
They're all as bad as each other. Vote UKIP.

[naomi24]

Svejk, can't see Cameron's name in your link to The Independent either.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Have discovered/invented a new object of moral opprobrium: the Milipedophile. Will he/she replace the traditional offenders against chastity (usually involving domestic animals) in places like Wales?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Pamela Geller was banned from entering Britain by Theresa May.

[Svejk]

Yeah but no but she lets the hate preachers in to make up for it. ;o)

[naomi24]

Svejk, she doesn’t have to. Labour let them in years ago. The little reported aims of Conservatives to achieve equality in law bears no comparison to the shameful vote-catching spin that Ed Miliband is employing.

[Svejk]

Equality in law? Ha ha. I know 'call me dave' is a fine looking man, Naomi, specially in his orange hat*, but really . . .
http://i.imgur.com/BrXkTPK.jpg

[naomi24]

Svejk dear, your ignorance is showing. Covering one’s head when visiting a temple is a requirement – and since as a rule western style hats are unacceptable, the head covering he’s wearing is provided. Apart from that, what’s wrong with good manners?

[Svejk]

I must admit, if Samcam was leading a party, I'd probably overlook her political shortcomings and ineptitude.
But it looks hypocritical to knock another leader for 'buying' the Muslim vote and defending one's own for trying the same thing last week. I believe, just yesterday, he promised more apprenticeships for black and Asian kids??? I know he doesn't make party policy but could you imagine, say, David Davis, saying such things.
Not that I'm saying I'd rather see Ed as PM, you understand. That could well be a disaster from which there's no return.

[Svejk]

And with regards to wearing 'silly' hats. If I were PM, I'd make it clear to the natives that they're very lucky to have their temples in my country and honoured by my presence without a hat. ;)

[bazwillrun]

"and since as a rule western style hats are unacceptable"

but we are in the "west"...if they dont like our ways they are free to go east..sooner the better.....why come here in the first place ?

[naomi24]

Svejk, he didn’t try the same thing last week. His name wasn’t mentioned in your link – and his press office certainly haven't issue a press release on the subject with the intention of making headline news. You're right though about the prospect of Ed Miliband as Prime Minister - and about the hats. ;o)

[sandyRoe]

Could the Mail not dig up a photo of Miliband wearing a yarmulke? That might cost him a few votes?

[tamborine]

Not sated at usurping his brother & his jewish line, he chooses the Herodian path. Next will be all males circumsized or taxed for non-compliance. He proves I aint the maddest ;/p

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great