Hms Bulwark

[Lynn_M]

This Royal Navy vessel is currently on its way towards the coast of Lybia to 'rescue refugees' who've took to the ocean in unseaworthy vessels, their intention, the invasion of Europe.

One this naval ship's decks are heaving with 'refugees,' what's its next move going to be? Where will the navy deposit those 'refugees?'

[bazwillrun]

exactly what i was thinking whilst reading the news reports....can only hope they dont bring any of them here...


im sure there are now thousands taking to boats hoping that theyll be rescued and brought here or another benefits giving country of the eussr, pretty safe in the knowledge that once theyre in theyre in for good...and all well coached in what they need to say etc etc etc...asylum etc etc etc

[bazwillrun]

http://news.sky.com/story/1497662/navy-ship-picks-up-700-migrants-in-sea-rescue

"The UK rescue comes as the Italian coastguard revealed nearly 3,500 migrants were saved from the Mediterranean on Saturday alone in a joint operation by Italian, Irish and German ships."

"The Italian government forecasts 200,000 will arrive this year, up from 170,000 in 2014"

[ichkeria]

The other options are:

Let them sink
Let them come across unsupervised

Are you seriously suggesting that the course of action being undertaken is not preferable to any of the above?

[FrogNog]

Would you prefer they die?

[FrogNog]

Here is one of your "invaders". Lucky they didn't make it eh?

http://tinypic.com/r/mhrgph/8

[douglas9401]

On hearing that their chances of rescue have greatly increased, thousands take to the sea on anything that'll float.

Well, I never saw that one coming.

It will have to end sometime so why not now?

[bazwillrun]

nobody is suggesting anything other than dont bring them here...whats wrong with taking to another african mainland country...

[Svejk]

If they choose to commit suicide, who are we to stop them?

[KARL]

Where will they be deposited - the British government has already said that they will not be brought to the UK. This of course begs the question: What are British ships doing in picking them up ? One answer is that the UK was being starkly "shown up" by other nations, not least the 330,000 strong Icelanders with their ship and aircraft, who saved thousands from a certain death over the past year. After all, the UK is the leading light of common sense and all things good and superior, is it not ? Surely the world realises that the UK, given the chance again, would lead them into a utopia, unlike what the foreigners and even some UK third columnists have in mind with all their talk of peace, unity and military cutbacks ? Yes, the UK did not look good by comparison and the UK government wanted to "show compassion" - but, as always, at the same time washing their hands of the result.

The talk of too many people arriving spuriously and "illegally" in Britain is laughable when compared with what Greece and Italy, and also Spain, constantly experience and deal with in a conspicuously generous manner, right down to individual acts - are they not yet overwhelmed ?

The vast majority of the people arriving in Europe in this way hope to go to Germany, the Nordic countries, even Switzerland - not the UK (a surprise to some in the UK who don't bother to go beyond the tabloid headlines). Yes, there are some who try to enter the UK, often because they already speak English and are put off by the thought of learning another language from scratch. Interestingly, it is not (as the vociferous suggest) the prospect of UK benefits - the other countries actually provide better backup to newcomers; the vast majority simply want to earn a living and be safer than they were where they came from, many hope one day to go back home. Still, some misguidedly think that the UK is better than other choices, but then there are also people who clamour to enter the USA where inequality is greatest in the "civilised" world, poverty is the most acute, gun crime is distressingly common, etc., etc. It is often surprising how misguided people can be.

[elgreco]

Your last sentence. Spot on. Were you referring to yourself?

[retrocop]

Karl
Perhaps you could enlighten me please as I am not sure about this.
I think it was 68 desperate people fleeing from their country ended up in Harwich.
A dangerous undertaking to flee clandestinely from one side of the world to the other i.e. Veitnam and China. Now if I were to flee my country due to fear of persecution why would I bypass the rest of Europe and endanger myself or my family by remaining in a sealed container and crossing yet another sea to reach a small Island detached from mainland Europe.
Now if I was truly desperate I would be so happy to surrender myself for asylum at the nearest safe country from my departure point rather than take further risk. Would'nt you?

[bazwillrun]

" Interestingly, it is not (as the vociferous suggest) the prospect of UK benefits -"

utter garbage...

[retrocop]

Please could you supply us with a comparison between the UK against Germany,France and Spain in your statement. How much better off are these newcomers treated there?

//the other countries actually provide better backup to newcomers;//

[baza]

Silly question , what is the Lybian government doing to prevent these mass suicide types from getting into these boats ?

[mushroom25]

//Libyan government //

i don't think such a thing exists, baza.

[baza]

mushroom, you may well be right.

[sandyRoe]

Liberia and Sierra Leone were formed by the USA and the UK respectively as homelands for freed slaves in the 19th Century. Could the same not be done in some underpopulated part of Africa to provide safe living conditions for these refugees?

[Baldric]

What about that Karl eh?
and his Rose Tinted Specs!

[retrocop]

I thought Karl had all the answers but when challenged there is no further input. :-)

[ToraToraTora]

rescue them and drop them back to where they set off, simples.