Doctors Opening Hours

[mikey4444]

My avatar, Nye Bevan, said that he managed to get the NHS off the ground,
by "stuffing the mouths of Doctors with gold"

It seems that the practise is still ongoing :::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33191120

GP's already get paid eye-watering amounts of money, and now they may even get more. I don't know about 7 day opening, but I would be delighted if I was able to get an appointment to see my GP anytime from Monday to Friday, let alone the weekends !

[Sqad]

I agree entirely mikey....that is nationalised medicine for you....come on in and "fill yer boots."

No competition, not applicable to modern medicine, but that is what the public want.

[ToraToraTora]

prior to the NHS doctors were comparable to lawyers in public perception of money grubbers. At a public level we are largely shielded from this but go to the uncivilised nations, ie most of them, and you can see this at work.

[Eve]

It's such a highly trained and skilled job though that if they want the extra staff then they will need to pay, must be a hell of a job at times and a lot of liability.

I would welcome a 7 day service though, both in GP practices and in hospital. I am very lucky with my surgery though, considering the large amount of patients and in a heavily populated inner city area, they have a fantastic call back system and as long as I ring within a reasonable time and need to be seen, it's unusual not to get see if I need it on the day.

They are also now part of an out of ours service where you can see a GP in the evening, might not be at your practice (or a GP from that practice at your practice) but if you need to be seen then you have the option, where available.

Maybe if they are finding a lot of doctors train here go to work elsewhere (and who can blame them if the terms are better), they need some kind of tie in with their training to here and the public sector.

Possibly harder if it is paid for by the individual though than if subsidised, I honestly don't know how it works for medicine.

I can see weekend appointments potentially being harder to get than some during the week, especially for week day workers and employers who aren't keen on giving medical appointment time, especially if non-urgent, within work time.

[ToraToraTora]

Were do you get off on sla66ing of our NHS squad, that ******** you live in is totally barbaric. Take an E111? PMSL, my sister had a baby in spain and as her waters broke did they call an ambulance, yep eventually only after checking her paperwork, barbarians. Give me our NHS anyday of that foriegn money grubbing ***.

[mikey4444]

Morning Sqad !

I think the people want to be able to see their GP when its convenient to them, not the GP. It takes me about 4 consecutive days trying, before I can get an appointment.

My Doctor is very good and I wouldn't want to go anywhere else. But since the senior partner retired about 2 years ago, he and his colleague just can't attract a Doctor to fill the vacancy.

But, conversely, they have no apparent problem in finding locums, who earn more than they do ! Now isn't that strange !

[mikey4444]

TTT...calm down dear...its only a debate !

[Gromit]

The last time a similar initiative was undertaken, by Labour 10 years ago, the Doctors could not believe the golden deal they were offered and readily accepted the offer.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6314301.stm

As similar objectives are the goal this time, do not be surprised at a similar result - Doctors getting even more pay but pffering an even more inferior service.

[Sqad]

TTT....thank you for that helpful input.

[Sqad]

LOL^^^^

[Bathsheba]

Speaking as a former GP receptionist, I can only contribute my own experience...and that is that the GPs thought they were some kind of God, + all they wanted the receptionists to do was to keep those pesky patients as far away from them as possible.

Baths
x x

[Gromit]

Fortunately, they can bury their mistakes...

// A teenager who begged doctors to take her health fears seriously in the months before she died from a rare cancer was told by medics to "stop Googling your symptoms".
Bronte Doyne died on March 23, 2013, aged 19 - just 16 months after she first complained of severe stomach pains.
In text messages, tweets and personal diary entries, the student expressed her worries that medics were not acting as her health deteriorated.
Doctors dismissed her concerns, leaving her desperate for someone to take her seriously.
Finally, after pleading to be taken seriously, she was admitted to hospital where she passed away 10 days later. //

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11677561/Stop-Googling-your-symptoms-teenage-cancer-victim-told-before-death.html

[ToraToraTora]

yes carry on laughing sqad, just don't come back for treatment like all those other expat plonkers because their insurance won't pay. Pound to a pinch o *** you'll be in there too sqad. Stop sl66ing off our system.

[ummmm]

To be fair, TTT, Sqad has retired to Spain so has spent a working lifetime paying into the system.

[ToraToraTora]

yes but when his insurance won;t pay he'll come back to the system he sl66s off everyday. Yes he's paid in fair enough but a bit hypocritical don;t you think. Must be getting to the age now sqad were your insurance won't do it.

[Sqad]

TTT....just to put you right on a few of your objections.

I rate the NHS highly (not the envy of the world) but up there with the best.
My criticisms are not daily but represent my opinion how GP and the NHS can come into the 21 century and improve patient care......just my opinions.

I do not have private health insurance in Spain and have had two major heart procedures performed on the Ibsalud (NHS) without paying one euro and a high standard of medical and surgical care.

[bazwillrun]

"TTT...calm down dear...its only a debate ! "

yet another example of his patronising, condescending arrogance....

[bazwillrun]

" Nye Bevan, said that he managed to get the NHS off the ground,
by "stuffing the mouths of Doctors with gold"

labours answer to everything, spend spend spend and if that doesnt work just spend more...

[ToraToraTora]

well you must live near one of the places where there is an NHS equivalent. I went to Majorca the other year with my E111 and the locals laughed at that, saying there is nothing other han private available and the E111 is useleess. Anyway I could write a book with your negative comments on the NHS on this site. I will be on your back watching from now on.

[jennyjoan]

ttt - you are going to give poor Sqad another heart attack - leave him alone