Sunday Working.

[10ClarionSt]

I know this was in the news weeks ago but I think there is more to it than just increased trading on Sundays. I would suggest that this is the first step to bringing Sundays into the Employment Benefits System. At the moment, claimants can earn any amount on Sundays without it affecting their benefits. This will disappear when Sunday is classed as a working day. I think IDS and Gorgeous George will be looking seriously at that.

[rockyracoon]

And so they should. I've never heard of that benefit loophole, it needs closing pronto.

[andy-hughes]

Heaven forbid that anyone claiming benefits should give up their Sunday to supplement their income and decrease the burden on the tax-payer - what ever next!!!

[naomi24]

//At the moment, claimants can earn any amount on Sundays without it affecting their benefits.//

That surely can only be true if people are working for cash in hand and not declaring it.

[naomi24]

But are they declaring their earnings?

[naomi24]

Another thing. You say "Sundays only". That would put anyone working on Sundays only in the same league as people working 16 hours or less on any other day - and hence still able to claim benefits. I can't see that Sunday in particular is relevant.

[naomi24]

You need to provide a link to this. It doesn't sound right to me.

[EDDIE51]

Sorry you are wrong !
If you earn any money while on income related benefit it MUST be declared on matter what day it is earned on. If people are thinking they can earn money on a Sunday and it does not affect benefits they are WRONG !

[naomi24]

10ClarionSt, insisting you're right here isn't really good enough. You need to provide proper evidence to confirm that what you're saying is correct. Personally, I don't think it is. If it were people would be fighting each other to work on Sundays - but they're not.

[ummmm]

You are wrong...

[naomi24]

I think 10ClarionSt has latched on to some ludicrous conspiracy theory that makes 'IDS and Gorgeous George' into the demons of the piece.

[Mamyalynne]

This is from a page regarding rules in Ireland,not sure if any different to here.

//Sunday work and jobseeker's payments
Since 21 February 2013 Sunday working is taken into account for Jobseeker's Benefit. You must be unemployed for 4 out of 7 consecutive days (including Sunday). If you work on Sunday you are considered to be employed for 1 day and 1/5th of your normal rate of Jobseeker's Benefit will be deducted from your weekly payment.

Even though the social welfare employment week now takes Sunday into account you are not considered unemployed for 7 days. You are considered to be unemployed for 6 days out of the 7-day social welfare employment week. This means that for each week that you are fully unemployed 6 days are deducted from the days remaining on your Jobseeker's Benefit claim.

In the same way a person who works 2 days a week would have 4 days deducted from the days remaining on their JB claim.//


http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/social_welfare_payments_and_work/jobseekers_benefit_and_work.html

[Mrsspagnoli57]

I worked for the DSS/DWP/Employment Service/Job Centre Plus for 25 years. They ONLY way that Sunday earnings do not affect income related benefit is if the earnings are UNDECLARED-ie cash in hand. Any earnings whenever worked or paid are taken into account for benefit purposes. If the scenario as quoted by the original poster was true anyone could get over the 16hr rule by saying the work was done on Sunday. It is fantasy-the only ones getting away with this are breaking the law by not declaring their earnings.

[hc4361]

Sorry, 10CS, but you are wrong.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Heaven forbid that anyone claiming benefits should give up their Sunday to supplement their income and decrease the burden on the tax-payer - what ever
next!!! ///

How can that be decreasing the burden on the tax-payer?

They are no doubt still claiming the maximum they are entitled to, the work they do on Sundays is extra cash in their pockets.

[Zacs-Master]

Because if they paid tax, they would be partly self funding their benefits. Fairly simple ain't it?