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Just-Jude | 18:45 Wed 19th Aug 2015 | News
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Should Smith be sacked along with the rest of the DWP liars who made up these fantasy stories?

Should they be the one's now being sanctioned instead of job seekers?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/18/dwp-admits-making-up-positive-quotes-from-benefits-claimants-for-leaflet
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How does he get away with being a total plank?
Why on earth would you expect that. They are only examples to illustrate a point
Plonker surrounded by more plonkers.
If only IDS was fictitious.
Milvus - "They are only examples to illustrate a point "

Now they are - because they have been amended, but previously, they were shown as being genuine testimonies, Which they are not, and that contravenes the Advertising Standards regulations.

It is deceptive, and should not be acceptable from a government department.

Smith’s attempts to shift the blame onto the Communications Director have failed, because they guy in charge there denies knowing anything about these leaflets!

Typical political chicanery – it is a disgrace.
And what harm has been caused?
Why not use quotes from people who have been sanctioned ,wouldn't that have been simpler?

There are plenty if them.
^^....of them.
Do you really think all the people who appear on TV (like celebrities) have REALLY used the products they are advertising (before being paid to use them).

Of course not.

They are just examples and all "advertising" does it.

Surely we have more important things to worry about, like the national debt, thousands of immigrants coming her, Muslim terrorists, the NHS and so on.

Put things into perspective for gawds sake.
Quite. They are simply examples created to illustrate when sanctions may or may not be applied. The use of fictitious examples to illustrate a point is ubiquitous and in no way is dishonest. If you go to the help page of almost any website you will be directed to FAQs. Who is to say that any of those questions have actually been asked? It merely is an attempt to cover as many scenarios as might arise. A fuss over nothing. If this is the best that the opposition can do to attack the government they are in an even more parlous state than was previously thought.
Apart from the left wing leadership and the union complaints (deflecting focus from their leadership mess perhaps) who else has complained (accepting Mencap, but I'm not sure why)
I think classing this as a marketing leaflet is trying to find a rule that could be broken. No-one is being misled or suffers from the message.
You must admit, it's quite amusing to make out that sanctioned people would declare it a wonderful system.
Milvus - "And what harm has been caused?"

Apart from a government department funded by millions of pounds of tax payers’ money using that money to lie to a vulnerable section of society which it is paid to support, and then dissemble its way out of being caught, which calls into question the personal integrity of at least one elected MP?

No harm at all!



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VHG, this is not about advertising! It's about a deliberate attempt to deprive genuine job seekers of money they're entitled to. Making up false stories like this is nothing more than fraud.

Smith is a liar and should go!
Exactly AH. No harm at all. Just political bluster
The DWP had to close their 'twitter link' this afternoon. They were inundated with glowing testimonies for the sanctions scheme, lol.
VHG - "Do you really think all the people who appear on TV (like celebrities) have REALLY used the products they are advertising (before being paid to use them).

Of course not.

They are just examples and all "advertising" does it."

This is not 'advertising', this is Government literature which is lying to a vulnerable section of society, for no good reason, since if it had got of its corporate backside and wandered into the street outside, it could have found genuine claimants to speak to and photograph for its campaign.

It’s deceitful, and lazy, and its funded by taxpayers’ money, and if you think that equates to Gary Linaker talking about crisps, I don’t.

"Surely we have more important things to worry about, like the national debt, thousands of immigrants coming her, Muslim terrorists, the NHS and so on."

Downplaying the seriousness of one issue by standing it up against another serious issue is a facile argument – the importance of the latter does not negate the importance of the former.

Put things into perspective for gawds sake.
IDS still got his finger on the button then
Milvus - "No-one is being misled or suffers from the message."

Everyone is not being 'misled', they are being lied to, deliberately and shamelessly by a government department headed by an MP.

Making a fantasy out of the people who are delivering your message tends to dilute its integrity, I think you’ll find.
No don't find that at all AH.

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