Are Women Born Like It, Or Just Choose To Change Their Minds?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3209182/Women-likely-bisexual-men-change-minds.html

[murraymints]

well on one hand..but then on the other.....who really cares ?

[andy-hughes]

I think that a survey of 'celebrities' is a seriously dodgy peg to hang a survey on. If you are going to ask for accurate information, then people who's default position is a public image are not likely to say anything standard or ordinary.

But in my view, women are far more comfortable with their sexuality than men.

A woman is far more likely to be comfortable with saying that another woman is attractive, or sexy, without that in any way intending to infer that her comment is based on direct sexual attraction.

Men on the other hand, despite the massive leaps and bounds made in the acceptance of homosexuality, would still be wary in most cases, of saying that another man was sexy or attractive, because he would feel it would offer an erroneous impression about his own orientation.

So I would suggest that the survey is unreliable, but as a talking point, women bother less about being thought sexually interested in members of their own gender, and more inclined to consider the possibilities offered, without imagining that everyone will label them as a lady in comfortable shoes.

[hc4361]

Hardly surprising. Girls grow up seeing women as sexual objects everywhere, in advertising, music videos, tv and film far more than men are portrayed as sexual objects.

[andy-hughes]

hc4361 - "Girls grow up seeing women as sexual objects everywhere, in advertising, music videos, tv and film far more than men are portrayed as sexual objects."

But they are 'sex objects' for the titillation of men!

I don't think women become comfortable with the attraction of other women because of how they are portrayed in adverts that are not aimed at them as a gender.

[Old_Geezer]

Humour not allowed on the site today then ?

[hc4361]

The adverts may not be aimed at them but girls do see them and can be affected by them.

[andy-hughes]

hc4361 - "The adverts may not be aimed at them but girls do see them and can be affected by them."

I think you are seeing influences that are so subtle as to be virtually ineffective hc.

[wolf63]

Maybe women just like changing their minds

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[ummmm]

I appreciate a good looking woman but the thought of doing sexual things with any woman is completely alien to me.

So, imo, they are bi-sexual to start with.

As Murray says....who cares?

[Sqad]

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Science/Question1440012.html

There we go folks, it is all to do with "epigenetics" (don't ask) and there is a good post on that link by slaney.

I also agree totally with A-H in the following contexts:

\\\I think that a survey of 'celebrities' is a seriously dodgy peg to hang a survey on.\\\

Exactly.

\\\"Girls grow up seeing women as sexual objects everywhere, in advertising, music videos, tv and film far more than men are portrayed as sexual objects." \\

Because biology and reproduction makes them "sexual objects, they have to attract the male in whatever way possible.

Life has become very complicated in regard to sexual orientation or rather we have made it so.

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - " appreciate a good looking woman but the thought of doing sexual things with any woman is completely alien to me."

And would you agree with my premise that, in mixed company, you would be comfortable saying so out loud, but the majority of men in the group would not say the same about an attractive man?

[Khandro]

I'm with murraymints, who gives a toss what Ang. Jolie does or thinks?

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - "I'm with murraymints, who gives a toss what Ang. Jolie does or thinks?"

As I said, I think the survey of 'celebrities' starts from a flawed base anyway - people like Ms Jolie are not really typical, or reflect the lifestyles and attitudes of most women in society.

That said, it does provide an interesting starting point for a debate about less rarified ladies, and their take on the subject.

[Togo]

I'm with Eddie Izzard on this. I think I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

[ummmm]

Yes, Andy, I agree that many men wouldn't feel comfortable saying that out loud. I also think that men probably don't observe other men like women do women.

I've never heard a man say to another man 'oh, I love your top, where did you get it from?'

[andy-hughes]

ummmm -"I've never heard a man say to another man 'oh, I love your top, where did you get it from?' "

You haven't been around me then!

On more than one occasion I have stopped someone wearing a slogan tee-shirt that I like and asked him or her where they got it from.

Admittedly not as unusual as commenting on a specific item of clothing - but still a mile away from how buttoned-up most men are!

[ToraToraTora]

we are constantly told by people like Peter Tatchel et al, that we are born with our sexuality and it is unalterable.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - "we are constantly told by people like Peter Tatchel et al, that we are born with our sexuality and it is unalterable. "

Yes, but never underestimate the power of human curiosity.