So Who Does The Buck Stop With Then ?

[bazwillrun]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34061284

Absolute joke if true....looks like a load of smokescreens and mirrors to divert the buck from Phony B Liar.....

[Gromit]

The sexed up document about WMDs on which the decision to go to war pivotted, was supplied by the intelligence chiefs, so they were always going to be in the firing line of criticism from Chilcot, as its contents were,as we now know, lies.

The pretext for going to war was that Saddam could fire a missile within 4 minutes that was capable of striking the UK. This misimformation had MI6 stamped all over it, and was why the vote to attack Iraq, got all party support in the Commons.

[bazwillrun]

Yes, thankyou but most of us already know that...

what youve omitted is who and why specifically wanted the case to be made for going to war so as to honour an agreement made to GWB !....

[andy-hughes]

The worry is, what happens when Chilcott does eventually report -

"I've spent six years of chicanery and flim-flam, and eight figures of tax-payers money, and I conclude that you Mr Blair, and you Mr Straw and sundry others are guilty of dragging us into an illegal war and ... er ... that's it. I'm off to a cushy retirement."

Since serving politicians have their sense of honour, humility, and conscience removed on election, it's unlikely that a couple of retired ones will be very bothered.

A light grilling from Evan Davies, a few hostile headlines, and ... well, business as usual.

Was it worth the war, the losses, the costs, the enquiry, and all for this?

I rather think not.

[youngmafbog]

//Was it worth the war, the losses, the costs//

That question can never be answered, for instance what if he invaded other countries again, what if he goaded Iran into Nuking someone?

We simply do not know how the world would have turned out, apart from gorgeous George would still have a mate.

[andy-hughes]

youngmafbog - "//Was it worth the war, the losses, the costs//

That question can never be answered ..."

I think you'll find that it can - just check out public opinion, you'll find a pretty strong answer right there.

[Baldric]

///a PM who led us to war in the falklands just so she could get re-elected///

\\\ Under the British Nationality (Falkland Islands) Act 1983, Falkland Islanders are British citizens.\\\

You don't think the Defence of British Citizens had anything to do with it then, bonkers?

[Baldric]

And if she'd done nothing and left our fellow Countrymen at the mercy of The Argentinians I can just imagine the outcry from you and yours!

[-Talbot-]

The Falklands War ironically saved Thathcher's political career. I say ironically because she was very busy cutting back the UK's defence, she was warned the Falklands neened more protection and ignored it.
I think if the Argies had not invaded we would have leased/sold them anyway.

[Baldric]

Which Immigrants do you have in mind?

[youngmafbog]

Andy, public opinion is based on the thinking that it would be all dandy if we had not gone in. It may well have been, or it may not.

The majority of the public are either thick or too lazy to work anything else out for themselves so public opinion does not show whether is was worth it or not. Like I say we have no clue as to the outcome of inaction.

[youngmafbog]

Sounds good to me bouncer. Few weeks out on that bleak island and they'll be clamoring for where they came from.

Scotlands got plenty of bleak places too.

[ToraToraTora]

Glad Farriers mob wee'nt in in 82 or we'd be enslaved to General Galtieri now. Still knowing farrier he'd enjoy that.

[Baldric]

It's just that you used the phrase, 'our immigrants' now you say 'all of them'
does that include the one's at Calais?

[ichkeria]

When Chilcott reports most people will not read the document, but will be very quick to comment.
But at least wait until the document comes out before not reading it, eh? :-)

[youngmafbog]

Why not. Solves ours and the Frenchies problem. Then their Mayor would not be able to claim we are soft.

[youngmafbog]

Ich, some may be dead before he gets round to issuing it though!