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oh dear indeed - as someone who works in the area of the NHS that deals with personal health budgets (PHB), i can tell you they are a pain in the bum, and there are very few people who are able to benefit from them In theory, when someone is found eligible for NHS funding for their care, they could have a PHB if they want, although few do because being eligible means...
10:10 Tue 01st Sep 2015
UK is still way down the European Cancer survival League, although it is slowly improving.
The causes of this are multifactorial, however, cancer is treated far more aggressively in other countries of the world.
Take breast cancer for example:
More than 800 women a year are funded for Halaven, which extends the life of women with an especially aggressive form of the disease by almost five months on average.
Around half of women live longer than a year after receiving the drug, which costs around £10,000 for a six-month course of treatment, and is prescribed as standard care in 55 countries.
Funding for the above has been withdrawn.
The financial pot is limited and easily drained and yes i do feel for people with long term illnesses, many of them mental who are given the personal allowance, however, cancer treatment and prolongation of life bust be afforded even if it means reducing personal allowance.
The causes of this are multifactorial, however, cancer is treated far more aggressively in other countries of the world.
Take breast cancer for example:
More than 800 women a year are funded for Halaven, which extends the life of women with an especially aggressive form of the disease by almost five months on average.
Around half of women live longer than a year after receiving the drug, which costs around £10,000 for a six-month course of treatment, and is prescribed as standard care in 55 countries.
Funding for the above has been withdrawn.
The financial pot is limited and easily drained and yes i do feel for people with long term illnesses, many of them mental who are given the personal allowance, however, cancer treatment and prolongation of life bust be afforded even if it means reducing personal allowance.
oh dear indeed - as someone who works in the area of the NHS that deals with personal health budgets (PHB), i can tell you they are a pain in the bum, and there are very few people who are able to benefit from them
In theory, when someone is found eligible for NHS funding for their care, they could have a PHB if they want, although few do because being eligible means that you are very ill and not a lot of people want to added burden of arranging their own care. The PHB is worked out at how much money is needed to meet the assessed care needs and then instead of the NHS providing that care, the patient can source the care themselves but importantly get the same budget. If they can find certain bits of their care cheaper, and those other things will meet their care needs can then be paid for out of what is left. Therefore, theey are not costing the NHS any more than they would have done. Incidentally, these are the same people who for example are elderly and need to go to a care home, nd get their care paid for by the NHS
In theory, when someone is found eligible for NHS funding for their care, they could have a PHB if they want, although few do because being eligible means that you are very ill and not a lot of people want to added burden of arranging their own care. The PHB is worked out at how much money is needed to meet the assessed care needs and then instead of the NHS providing that care, the patient can source the care themselves but importantly get the same budget. If they can find certain bits of their care cheaper, and those other things will meet their care needs can then be paid for out of what is left. Therefore, theey are not costing the NHS any more than they would have done. Incidentally, these are the same people who for example are elderly and need to go to a care home, nd get their care paid for by the NHS
not really, they have to justify how anything they spend the money on meets that patient's assessed health needs.
As ever,t he stuff in the news focusses on one or two "sexy" peices of info i guess. The majority of people with a PHB might for example make a decision to have more physiotherapy, and say, have 1 less shower a week, so that the money is freed up for the physio. For almost all people (who are very few anyway), it's not a choice between a summer house or hiring a pedalo :)
As ever,t he stuff in the news focusses on one or two "sexy" peices of info i guess. The majority of people with a PHB might for example make a decision to have more physiotherapy, and say, have 1 less shower a week, so that the money is freed up for the physio. For almost all people (who are very few anyway), it's not a choice between a summer house or hiring a pedalo :)
bednobs> The PHB is worked out at how much money is needed to meet the assessed care needs and then instead of the NHS providing that care, the patient can source the care themselves but importantly get the same budget
That sounds fine, but how does "sourcing the care" equate to "buying a summer house"? Presumably the patient has not been assessed as "needing a summer house" but needing actual care, so how is the actual care that the patient needed provided if the money has been spent on a summer house?
If this was MPs and duck houses, people would be in uproar ...
That sounds fine, but how does "sourcing the care" equate to "buying a summer house"? Presumably the patient has not been assessed as "needing a summer house" but needing actual care, so how is the actual care that the patient needed provided if the money has been spent on a summer house?
If this was MPs and duck houses, people would be in uproar ...
I've never heard of the Personal Health Budget. My mum was very ill last year and needed things like a lifting chair, hospital-type bed and bath chair. These were provided by I don't know who and arrived as soon as required. Is this PHB a recent thing or was my mum fortunate enough to live in an area where people get what they need without bean-counters deciding who gets what?
(I know there is is a limited amount of money for these things and I'm very grateful that my mum got them without hassle)
(I know there is is a limited amount of money for these things and I'm very grateful that my mum got them without hassle)
Hi, only people who are exceedingly ill get their entire care paid for by the NHS (continuing healthcare). Most people get their care needs assessed/paid for by social services. With care provided by the council, you are assessed to make a financial contribution. If the NHS pays for your care, you do not have to make a financial contribution. Very few people qualify for continuing healthcare (nhs) funding
This is unfair but true. If a person has problems caused by brain tumours, their care can be paid for by the NHS and local council. If it's caused by dementia, the person and/or family may have to fund the care themselves, even though the symptons and outlook are the same. (Apart from the fact that people with dementia tend to live longer than people with brain tumours.) One is a medical disease; the other a social disease, which sounds ridiculous to me.
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