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if the overall view is to get out and it stays that way, then you can bet your bottom dollar there will be no referendum !
08:37 Sun 06th Sep 2015
Oh dear, here we go again:
“Fill in chunnel coz of less trading.”
The UK does more trade outside the EU than it does within it and that gap is increasing as the rest of the EU slumps into decline. Plus, of course, why do you expect that trade with the remaining EU countries will suddenly decline. Trade is undertaken despite the EU, not because of it.
“ Expensive european holidays - prohibitive to working class.”
Er..why? The euro is declining in value relative to Sterling and looks likely to continue to do so. When it collapses entirely in its current form many nations in the Eurozone (particularly popular holiday destinations) will revert to their own currencies which will devalue even more.
“Foreign manufacturers will set up in cheaper sites (taking our jobs) in east europe for increased trade.”
Presumably these will be the jobs they cannot fill with people already here and for which the country relies on a huge influx of migrants. Anyway, they already do this if it suits them. By contrast Nissan has just announced a huge investment in their UK plant despite the threat of a “Brexit”.
“No more cheap homes in the Med, etc etc.”
See your second point (and bear in mind that people used to buy property in Europe before the UK was an EU member).
“GB returns to 1950s, insignificant islands.”
If you really believe the UK was insignificant in the 1950s you don’t know your history. Released from the EU the UK will be able to form trading links with growing economies instead of being shackled to a moribund over regulated declining one.
Anything else you’d like me to address, tambo?
As retro has mentioned and as we have seen this week, our EU masters simply tear up any “treaty” which does not suit them without reference to the other signatories. They then castigate any member state which attempts to uphold the terms of the treaty. Not the sort of club I’d like to belong to. What next? The bit that gives the UK an opt out from joining the euro? Or perhaps the one that allows up to opt out of the Schengen Agreement.
The EU is designed to suit Germany and France. The other nations (particularly those who are net contributors) are simply milk cows to provide the funds for the regular and outrageous move of headquarters from Brussels to Strasbourg, to provide ridiculous salaries and perks for the assortment of Euromaniacs and to provide funds for the Common Agricultural Policy, the Common Fisheries Policy and many other wealth distribution schemes, none of which are the slightest benefit to the UK. (Unless, of course, you think that somebody taking £100 from you then giving you £20 back on the condition you spend it on what they tell you to is a good deal).
Even if a Brexit results in a net loss of income for the UK (and it is extremely unlikely that it will) its ability to run its own affairs and to determine the nature and character of the country is worth far more than a few bob in the bank. The UK needs to get out before the rest of the EU “welcomes” half of Africa and Asia to walk through their doors and then kindly issues them all with EU passports allowing them unfettered access to 28 countries.
“Fill in chunnel coz of less trading.”
The UK does more trade outside the EU than it does within it and that gap is increasing as the rest of the EU slumps into decline. Plus, of course, why do you expect that trade with the remaining EU countries will suddenly decline. Trade is undertaken despite the EU, not because of it.
“ Expensive european holidays - prohibitive to working class.”
Er..why? The euro is declining in value relative to Sterling and looks likely to continue to do so. When it collapses entirely in its current form many nations in the Eurozone (particularly popular holiday destinations) will revert to their own currencies which will devalue even more.
“Foreign manufacturers will set up in cheaper sites (taking our jobs) in east europe for increased trade.”
Presumably these will be the jobs they cannot fill with people already here and for which the country relies on a huge influx of migrants. Anyway, they already do this if it suits them. By contrast Nissan has just announced a huge investment in their UK plant despite the threat of a “Brexit”.
“No more cheap homes in the Med, etc etc.”
See your second point (and bear in mind that people used to buy property in Europe before the UK was an EU member).
“GB returns to 1950s, insignificant islands.”
If you really believe the UK was insignificant in the 1950s you don’t know your history. Released from the EU the UK will be able to form trading links with growing economies instead of being shackled to a moribund over regulated declining one.
Anything else you’d like me to address, tambo?
As retro has mentioned and as we have seen this week, our EU masters simply tear up any “treaty” which does not suit them without reference to the other signatories. They then castigate any member state which attempts to uphold the terms of the treaty. Not the sort of club I’d like to belong to. What next? The bit that gives the UK an opt out from joining the euro? Or perhaps the one that allows up to opt out of the Schengen Agreement.
The EU is designed to suit Germany and France. The other nations (particularly those who are net contributors) are simply milk cows to provide the funds for the regular and outrageous move of headquarters from Brussels to Strasbourg, to provide ridiculous salaries and perks for the assortment of Euromaniacs and to provide funds for the Common Agricultural Policy, the Common Fisheries Policy and many other wealth distribution schemes, none of which are the slightest benefit to the UK. (Unless, of course, you think that somebody taking £100 from you then giving you £20 back on the condition you spend it on what they tell you to is a good deal).
Even if a Brexit results in a net loss of income for the UK (and it is extremely unlikely that it will) its ability to run its own affairs and to determine the nature and character of the country is worth far more than a few bob in the bank. The UK needs to get out before the rest of the EU “welcomes” half of Africa and Asia to walk through their doors and then kindly issues them all with EU passports allowing them unfettered access to 28 countries.
Well the Austrian border barriers are up and down like a bride's nightie.
Open yesterday. Closed tonight. Again our European so called partners change the rules to suit. Why not admit Schengen was a stupid short sighted mistake and restore the security and integrity of your countries constitution by restoring border controls and restricting free movement permanently .
Some of you wish to remain part and parcel of Fred Karno's Circus if you get a referendum ????
Open yesterday. Closed tonight. Again our European so called partners change the rules to suit. Why not admit Schengen was a stupid short sighted mistake and restore the security and integrity of your countries constitution by restoring border controls and restricting free movement permanently .
Some of you wish to remain part and parcel of Fred Karno's Circus if you get a referendum ????
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