Daftest Headline Ever?

[joggerjayne]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/08/drones-uk-isis-members-jihadists-syria-kill-list-ministers

I love The Guardian, but sometimes they really get my goat.

Apparently we have been attacking people, to prevent them carrying out terrorist atrocities, cutting off people's heads, killing people in barbaric ways, etc ...

But because they are from the UK ... we are baddies for attacking them ... so we should leave them alone to get on with plotting to murder people??

Am I misunderstanding this??

[joggerjayne]

On 21 August, RAF drones killed 2 ISIS members ...

And so probably saved innocent lives ...

And Labour, and Nick Clegg, would have OPPOSED this ?????

[Jackdaw33]

...as Lib Dem sources say they would have stopped move in coalition.

Thank God the coalition is no longer a reality.

[jno]

depends whether you think we're at war with them, I suppose. As far as I can see, they're at war with Syria, and Britain are intervening without a parliamentary mandate, though they've been hot-and-cold for some years about whose side they're intervening on.

However, Corbyn's point is that it flies in the face of a parliamentary vote. Do you best defend democracy by ignoring it when it suits?

As for the headline, it seems a perfectly straightforward and factual summary of events. Are you sure it isn't the events rather than the headline you're objecting to?

[askyourgran]

No jj I can understand your perplexity. The world is going mad. Just because these people have been labelled 'British' (but really have no desire to be 'British') we should not seek them out for punishment, but bring them back home possibly fermenting more trouble among other 'British' Muslims living here. and talk to them about their problem. I only wish we had more drones wiping out the lot of them not just the few they have sucessfully done away with.

[Jackdaw33]

jno, your're on your own on this one. I shall just sit back and wait for the flak which you thoroughly deserve.

[jim360]

Not to worry, ayg, as the US have plenty of drones to go around...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan

[joggerjayne]

// Are you sure it isn't the events rather than the headline you're objecting to? //

I don't object to the events ... the RAF have eliminated people who posed a genuine and serious threat to possibly any of us ... (would you be relaxed if a relative of yours fell into the hands of ISIS ... even ISIS members from the UK? ... and you had pro watch a video of someone holding your child's hair and cutting off their head? ... no, I'm fairly happy that the RAF have wiped out people like that, and happy that the Prime Minister allowed them to do it.

I DO object to the headline. It suggests that the fact that the ISIS members were from the UK makes a difference. We are killing our own citizens, we can't have that!

Well frankly, if you join ISIS, I'm okay with you being taken out.

I find it quite scary that both Labour and the Lib Dems were opposed to the air attacks.

[bazwillrun]

classing traiterous filth like that as british citizens is a nonsense...they forfieted that right some time ago, not that they ever deserved or warranted it in the first place...

[Jackdaw33]

You now know what to expect should a Labour government, led by Corbyn, God forbid, ever be elected.

[THECORBYLOON]

Yup, if the evidence is there, it must be true. Do the words Iraq, weapons of mass destruction and forty-five minutes ring any bells?

[jno]

it is entirely proper for the leaders (or would-be ones) of political parties to say parliament should approve going to war. In this case parliamentary approval for intervention in Syria was sought and rejected (thank heaven).

[Old_Geezer]

Headline seems fine to me. Questions raised are valid too. One should not confuse questions about acting without parliamentary agreement with a demand not to take action. Declare a state of war first with the justifications and then act. Or else limit your activity to lawful attempts to get wrongdoers arrested and returned to face justice here.

[Svejk]

You go get em, OG , and we'll try them.

[Old_Geezer]

I am not your legal/diplomatic service. You go get them yourself.

[Svejk]

I haven't suggested 'arresting' them. I'm quite happy with the sentence they just received.