Hungary Declares State Of Emergency In Two Counties

[naomi24]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34252812

Europe is in a pickle.

[stuey]

...and a bit of a jam.

[naomi24]

Jam is probably more appropriate.

[stuey]

As I've said on here before, naomi24, I am extremely grateful for that large area of wet geography that separates me from what's going on over there.

[naomi24]

Canada?

[stuey]

Yes. Although I imagine that eventually we will be affected to a certain extent.

[Baldric]

Shall we start ticking them off this list as the Border Controls reappear?

http://www.schengenvisainfo.com/schengen-visa-countries-list/

[Gavmacp]

I see it as a global issue but cannot see any solution.

[naomi24]

No doubt you will, Stuey.

It's a thought, Baldric.

[-Talbot-]

Why has Angie gone very, very quite about it all?

[jourdain2]

Talbot - I just said that to OH about an hour ago. Strange.

[Hypognosis]

@Naomi

I don't have time/energy to curate a thread myself, so hope you don't mind me dropping a random fact here?

Google the phrase "Syria gni per capita" or "Syria average income" and ask yourself whether, even if there was no war there, they would probably want to be coming here anyway.

Wiki page on Syria economy suggests high percentage are younger than mid-20s and population growth is outstripping job availability.

The war led to *sanctions* (still in force) and that has crushed their trade so you cannot pretend the war has nothing to do with unemployment and low pay. Ultimately, it is still Assad to blame but I'm suggesting that sanctions turned the screws and continue to do so.

[tamborine]

Refugees refuse their fingerprints to lesser welfare countries but prefer Scandanavia for higher income

https://youtu.be/ZV315xqbRK8

[mushroom25]

hungary have announced they will jail those who break down the fence and/or cross the border illegally.

do they really have tens of thousands of empty cells readily available?

[mikey4444]

Hungary hasn't thought this through Mush !

[Hypognosis]

I don't think any country has thought this through, mikey.

So far, all I've thought about is whether our sewers can cope with the sudden insertion of a medium sized town into Britain.

Lucky we've had a wet summer though - an extra 20,000 showers/baths/ritual washings per day, plus other domestic consumption. There used to be a statistic bandied about that we have less drinking-quality water per capita than the people in the Sahel do. It may be time to fact-check that now.

The laws of supply and demand mean prices can only go one way.


Disclaimer: 20k extra Brits would have been added to the existing population in any event but at least that would have entailed a suitably long time of adjustment and infrastructure expansion. It doesn't matter who they are, it's the suddenness of it all that I don't think we're equipped for.

Germany's change of attitude was sudden and perplexing, given their earlier stance.

[jourdain2]

If Hungary has any sense they will ship the failed applicants straight back out of their jurisdiction.

[agchristie]

Wouldn't it be magnificent if some intellectual produced a thesis on the impact on infrastructure which might just make authority figures properly take stock of the situation.

A chaotic situation is just being compounded by countries who don't seem to have thought it through.

Europe is in a pickle or more relevantly a logjam. I hope paracetamols don't end up being rationed.....

[anotheoldgit]

Amazing how the vast number of countries in that great continent of Africa are keeping rather quiet over all this, not one of it's countries have offered to welcome them there.