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Are Those Who Sign Parliamentary Petitions Bigots?

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anotheoldgit | 13:56 Thu 24th Sep 2015 | News
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Well according to this Labour MP the 185,000 concerned citizens who signed this Parliamentary petition are nothing more than 'BIGOTS'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/607285/Parliamentary-Petition-Labour-Muslim-Steve-McCabe-MP-Birmingham

An upcoming Commons debate - which will last for three hours - has been scheduled after the document received more than 100,000 signatures.

/// The debate follows a pledge in the Conservative manifesto before the 2010 general election that any petition signed by more than 100,000 people will be eligible for debate in parliament. ///

/// But Labour MP Steve McCabe slammed the notion of a Commons debate on the subject ///
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VE check it out

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ve, perhaps you need to understand the worry behind the post ratgher than sneer at someone who is perhaps not so well blessed with the grey matter.

These are real fears being voiced here so as Corbyn would have said "Mick from Liverpool asks ....."

They are not bigoted, they have a clear and reasonable worry. Many parts of the UK do appear like another country.

But then we know labour hate democracy and questions unless it falls in with their bigoted ideaology
"they have a clear and reasonable worry."

Absolutely correct, and highly likely to be a much more calculated assessment made by individual's than some bigoted MP who makes a foolish general sweeping statement, i think.
// Mikey, are you saying the Old Age Pension is a Benefit?//

yup I regret to inform readers OAP is counted as a benefit
* i was thinking
“Most benefits paid out in Britain every week goes to old age pensioners,…”

Please don’t start me off on State pensions. You’ve already started me off on climate change this week, Mikey :-)

“Proper” State pension payments (that is, those that have been fully funded by the recipient) are no more “benefits” than occupational pensions are. But the scheme has severe drawbacks. Contrary to belief, the amount received does not depend on the amount paid in. Currently somebody earning £100,000 a year pays £5,271 a year in NI. Somebody earning £10,000 a year pays £233 a year in NI. If they both work at those pay levels for 35 years each will receive the same basic State pension (currently set at around £155 per week when the new levels kick in next year). One pays 23 times as much as the other but both receive the same. The scheme is full of such anomalies.

Payments should be in direct proportion to the sums paid in and only those payments should be termed “pensions”. Anything else should be retirement age benefits.

But back to the question, people who have a different view to others should not be termed bigots. They are entitled to the view and in this particular case it is a view that I share wholeheartedly. I’ve been up to London today and the concentration of people there gets worse every time I go. There is no room for more people in London and since migrants seem to want to live nowhere else we must shut up shop forthwith.
NJ....I'm sorry to have raised your blood pressure twice in one week !

What you have said about Old Ages Pensions is probably right but that is how National Insurance Contributions work ! I come back to the original petition, and its inaccuracies. Pensions are indeed the bigger part of the Benefit Budget and the petition is therefore inaccurate and grossly misleading.
The petition is worded badly. I rephrased it:

Immigrants are taking "all" our benefits at a cost of millions. FALSE: they're taking a disproportionately large share of them.

That statement is NOT grossly misleading.

Only 185,000 signed, I thought there'd be more !
Yay !
VE...prove it ! In other words, produce evidence that immigrants are taking a disproportionately large share of our benefit budget.
I'd like to know in advance, Mikey, whether you're saying: (b) that I'm wrong - and that you an prove YOUR assertion, or (b) that you simply don't know and are willing to be persuaded either way if presented with hard evidence..
I thought I had made myself quite clear VE. I would like you to produce evidence to prove and back up your statement.
I have no intention of wasting my time trying to convince a bigot whose response to any argument which attempts to rebut one of his pet prejudices is to turn the volume control up and repeat himself, Mikey.
I just want to know- in advance - that you're not a member of that group.
VE...you have made the statement and its up to you to justify what you have said, not me to prove you wrong.
I don't think I could convince you, Mikey, because I don't think you have an open mind on this issue.
Well, until you produce some evidence, we will never know VE !
On the few occasions when I've tried to challenge some of your views in as calm and reasonable way as I could manage you've not bothered to think at all about what I actually said and preferred to responded by answering a caricature of my position.

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