Richard Dawkins 'to Hell With Their Culture'

[agchristie]

Guess what he is referring to?

But how many here think he has overstepped the mark or is he simply saying what many are afraid to?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/611231/Richard-Dawkins-in-extraordinary-blast-at-Muslims-To-hell-with-their-culture

[Orderlimit]

Good for him, he's right.

[david small]

Ah, Fresh air...Look lefties, we're going down for the third time.

[bookbinder]

It's fair comment in a free country. Good luck to him and to all who agree with him.

[Gromit]

Do you agree with the rest of what Dawkins said, is about free speech at Universities, or are you just cherry picking the stuff you agree with?


// Maher and Dawkins started the discussing by criticising universities for banning extreme speakers.
That was sparked by the news former Muslim Maryam Namazie had a visit to Warwick University cancelled.
Dawkins said it ridiculed the whole ethos of universities.
He said: "At the university I went to, the University of California at Berkeley, we had the free speech movement in the 1960s.
"What a betrayal we're seeing now with campuses all over America and Britain denying people the right to speak. //

[jomifl]

Consider what the world would be like if everyone was muslim..then answer the question.

[woofgang]

well he can't have it both ways...either people have free speech and freedom to choose to espouse a religion or not....free speech "provided you agree with me" is not free speech.

[jomifl]

You have a valid point Woofgang but free speech doesn't really exist does it?

[Gromit]

Dawkins is interested in ideas.
So he is perceptive to *new* ideas.
What he is not interested in is 800 year old doctrine.
We shouldn't deny muslims, or christians or Jews the right to freely express themselves. But if they are just regurgitating old ideas, we do not have to be polite to them.
In this instance, Dawkins is not interested in why a man is justifying beating his wife up. He doesn't want to hear it, and dismisses it.
'To hell with their culture' is just an old man frustrated with constantly hearing the same rubbish.

[jourdain2]

Good for him!

[Theland]

We Christians are just as offensive I guess, with our jam and Jerusalem, church bells, tea with the vicar, Boy Scouts , girl guides, bring and buy sales, and Sunday school to indoctrinate our young.
With weapons like these, we will rule the world.

[Svejk]

Love The Cure, hate islam. Have to cut muslims a bit of slack as they've been brainwashed from birth and in some cases 'know not what they do'. But their progressive liberal apologists, some of whom operate on this site, have no such excuse.

[tamaris]

Common sense at last.

[Orderlimit]

"That was sparked by the news former Muslim Maryam Namazie had a visit to Warwick University cancelled. " The students' union tried to ban former muslim Maryam Namazie citing fears that the human rights campaigner could offend Islam and Muslim students.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/anger-speaker-warwick-university-banned-10142876

Maryam, born in Iran has experienced the realities of Islam. She was 12 when the Iranian revolution started. Her school was closed for islamicisation and the TV news broadcast executions daily and so on. She later moved to Sudan which became an Islamic republic 6 months after her arrival.

[naomi24]

Yes, he is saying what many are afraid to say - and he's absolutely right. This is only considered ‘extraordinary’ because criticism of Islam is perceived to be a no-go area - and that speaks volumes.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

/// Yes, he is saying what many are afraid to say - and he's absolutely right. This is only considered ‘extraordinary’ because criticism of Islam is perceived to be a no-go area - and that speaks volumes. ///

And that is why sites such as this are so popular, it is only on sites such as this where views and thoughts can be discussed without the need to look over one's shoulder.

Admittedly you still get some who wish to muffle those who don't toe the PC line, with their repeated 'racist', "Islamophobic", "Xenophobic", "Bigot" name calling.

[viv41]

I think he says what many feel, but won't say out loud. I agree with him.

[dannyk13]

Obviously the word tolerance does not appear in Dawkins's vocabulary.

[agchristie]

@ Danny

Dawkins is on record generally saying this:-

" It would be intolerant if I advocated the banning of religion, but of course I never have. I merely give robust expression to views about the cosmos and morality with which you happen to disagree. You interpret that as `intolerance’ because of the weirdly privileged status of religion, which expects to get a free ride and not have to defend itself. If I wrote a book called The Socialist Delusion or The Monetarist Delusion, you would never use a word like intolerance. But The God Delusion sounds automatically intolerant. Why?What’s the difference? I have a (you might say fanatical)desire for people to use their own minds and make their own choices, based upon publicly available evidence. Religious fanatics want people to switch off their own minds, ignore the evidence, and blindly follow a holy book based upon private ‘revelation’. There is a huge difference."

[naomi24]

dannyk13 , As someone commented at the end of that article, //If your culture allows for wife beating or marital rape, 'to hell with your culture'. Is that so bad?"//

Well, is it? Or do you think society should 'tolerate' that?