Horrific Bus Crash

[retrocop]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34613637

The Death toll for this RTA is horrific.I would be interested to know what the accident investigators findings are. How tragic.
You could be forgiven for thinking that the death toll was a result of a small passenger jet crash not a Road Traffic Accident.

[Zacs-Master]

Interesting that the 'A' of the acronym RTA has now been replaced with 'C' as in Road Traffic Collision within the UK police force. This was adopted because they believe that there is no such thing as an accident and that either human error or mechanical failure is the cause.

[retrocop]

Fair comment. That was the thought in the police driving school years ago but we still used RTA in those days. It was similar to the term accidental discharge with a firearm . It should be negligent discharge.

[anotheoldgit]

Absolutely horrific, one never thinks that such a tragedy could happen when one travels by coach or bus.

[Retrochic]

Yes very sad. Pensioners from a very small town many many families will have lost parents and grandparents.

[Eve]

It's just awful.

Sounds like the resultant fire was to blame for the high death toll rather than the initial crash itself, although they are, of course, linked.

It must have been absolutely terrifying, I just can't imagine.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

Never mind the 40+ pensioners that have been killed, just as long as we have the correct terminology.

[naomi24]

That's terrible. Poor people. :o(

[Retrochic]

AOG I was thinking the same thing myself -some people just can't help themselves can they?

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, Retrocop was asking what the 'accident' investigators findings would be. I thought it relevant to point out that there is no such thing as an accident in the UK police's terminology, which I thought (seemingly correctly, judging by his response) that he might be interested in, as he used to be one of our boys in blue. I hope that clarifies my comment and I sincerely apologise for not expressing my condolences to the families of the victims who will never see this thread.

[Retrochic]

^^^^^^Nice...........

[retrocop]

Eve. I am sure you are correct in thinking that the resultant fire was to blame for the horrific casualty rate. The link said both vehicles quickly ignited which suprises me as I am sure both commercial vehicles,especially in France,would be diesel with a higher flash point. I am not putting forward a conspiracy theory here. Just suprised and deeply shocked/saddened.

[Mamyalynne]

What a tragedy - so many people grieving today.

[Retrochic]

Also the age of the people on the bus would not help in getting quickly out of the emergency exits. On the French news today it stated some did manage to escape but later died of their injuries in hospital.

[Zacs-Master]

I hope you all enjoy picking over the gruesome details of these poor people's deaths. Very ghoulish and not something I want to be associated with.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

It is not being Ghoulish as you pointed out, but showing compassion for fellow human beings.

[Gromit]

The black Saturday crash in 1982 was worse and mostly children.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_(France)

[retrocop]

Zacs-Master
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/rsa1986125/s61a.html

Better put there Lordships right on legislation. Road Safetey Act 1986 is comparitively recent in legislative chronology in the UK.
They use the word accident often in this act.
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[Zacs-Master]

I think that link is Australian Retro

[Zacs-Master]

In fact I'm sure of it.

[retrocop]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/170/enacted
There you go the UK version and 2 years younger but the language is the same. :-)