Job Advisers In Foodbanks Totally Stupid Idea By Ids

[gordiescotland1]

What do people think of this?
http://news.sky.com/story/1577572/put-job-advisers-in-food-banks-says-ids

I think its terrible it might put people off using them.

[Retrochic]

I think offering job advice is condescending and derogatory to the person being helped. Food banks are an emergency measure and you have to be referred, you can't just hop on down there for free food, and you are only allowed a few visits before your are 'flagged up'. The last thing I would want is some do good-er giving me 'job advice' when I was already trying my hardest to find a job and already embarrassed I had to take help. Its akin to the Poor Law Boards in Victorian England

[Retrochic]

bednobs -what an idiotic statement - if you are on JSA you have to have a job advice interview every fortnight or you lose your Benefit.

[retrocop]

Geordie
There was me thinking that the Scots had some pride as a nation. You are letting them down
I can agree that it is wrong to have food banks in this day and age
I can agree that 50% of children in poverty belong to working families.I can provide the link
For you to say that naomi's post was patronising and offensive displays arrogance and little pride in yourself.
If you work already you just get the food you need. If you are capable of work and have some pride you will jump at the chance for a job and manage without charity.
Where do you belong in the scheme of things? I can guess.

[viv41]

Thanks for best answer gordie - my first ...

[Baldric]

That ^^ reminds me gordie, how did the interview go a few days ago?

[retrocop]

10 myths about food banks.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/25/food-banks-myths_n_4161759.html

[gordiescotland1]

I would love to get a job but i have been trying for 5 years last week I had my first interview I didnt get it but it was good to get an interview. But there are foreign workers everywhere in this town. I applied for a job in a restuarant and no luck 3 weeks ago i was in 5/7 staff were Eastern European that is the reality. This country is overcrowded with immigrants getting jobs that should go to British I dont care if people think Im racist a lot of people think like this

[ladybirder]

They give benefit advice as well.
// Labour MP Frank Field said where the scheme had been operating in Birkenhead "90% of people did not return because the person sorted out their benefit problems". \\

The scheme seems to be successful according to the link. What's not to like? If I wanted a job I'd be very grateful that someone was on hand help me.

[EcclesCake]

Attitude in an interview is a key part of the assessment, particularly in the service industry.

Food for thought?

[naomi24]

gordiescotland1 , //Ian Duncan Smith has created the need for the foodbanks in the first place//

Not true. The first foodbank in this country opened in 2000 – when a Labour government was in office.

http://www.trusselltrust.org/how-we-started

//very offensive comment naomi24 very patronising//

Yes, the truth is often seen by those who don’t want to acknowledge the facts as offensive. Nothing patronising about helping people who are capable of working to find work. You should be applauding such an initiative – not condemning it. Getting people into work will make foodbanks redundant – and that has to be a good thing, don’t you think?

[joeluke]

It would be totally pointless having job advisers in foodbanks

Most people using them who don't have a job don't actually want one

[Mamyalynne]

That's a sweeping statement.

I still don't see how having advice available is a bad thing and it most certainly does not hark back to the Poor Law Boards unless the stipulation is see the adviser or no food.

[mikey4444]

Even though this comes from IDS, on the face of it, it doesn't sound too bad an idea. The Food Bank I support has lots of leaflets available for people to take away, and help to find jobs is one area that they assist in.

But some of the people we help already have jobs but are paid so low/work so few hours, they still need our help.

[B00]

I'm struggling to find a negative with advise being offered along with a few carrier bags of food?

Worst case scenario

Advisor: Can I offer you some advise on gaining employment?
Food bank user : No, I'm just collecting my food and leaving.

Where's the harm in that?

[mikey4444]

Boo...you get today's Common Sense Gold Star !

[New Judge]

"Thanks for best answer gordie - my first ... "

Yes, a well constructed, well composed answer, viv. It covered all the points raised and took the debate forward by a giant leap! :-)

My views on foodbanks are well known so I won't repeat them. However, as far as this proposal goes, why should anybody using a food bank be put off by the presence of a job advisor? If they want help it is there for them, if they don't all they need to do is politely decline. I don't know why it is that immediately anything is announced that will have an effect on the "poor" there are howls of protestone thing I would like to see is the costs and benefits of this scheme and an assurance that if it produces no worthwhile results t will) it binned.

[Mamyalynne]

Also what is very interesting is that despite his obvious dislike of the idea , Gordie has posted a link to an article full of positives.

[naomi24]

^Indeed. The mind boggles.

[Khandro]

Are the job advisors already employed as job advisors, or will there be new positions filled by the unemployed?
The unemployment problem might this way be solved by all people using food banks becoming job advisors.

[Retrochic]

Boo your little scenario is cute but hardly applicable if you've spent the last five weeks applying for 50 jobs been to two interviews without success and are just about at your wits end as your money has run out. I think the reply you got may be a little more -savoury?