Corbyn Cannot Support Air Strikes On I S

[ChillDoubt]

And opposition front bench resignations are expected.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34939109

Is there anything that this person WOULD back that might secure the security of these Isles?
And where are the usual AB suspects to sing his praises whilst his party melts down in front of his eyes? They're very conspicuous by their absence!

[jourdain2]

I'm actually not sure that he would support anything. I have a vision of him facing a blood-soaked Daesh warrior and saying something on the lines of 'We can resolve this. Tell me your problems with the Western World?'

He is out of my understanding, sorry. I am far from being a war-lord, but if someone threatens you - you arm and hit back, seems simple to me.

[bazwillrun]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Very_British_Coup

this is cor bin laden....remeber the ending ?

he will never be allowd to run this country...one way or another he will be stopped...

[Zacs-Master]

The man's a disgrace.

[naomi24]

//one way or another he will be stopped... //

Could be sooner than he imagines.

[andy-hughes]

I doubt that anyone, including Mr Corbyn himself seriously expects him to be anywhere near the leadership when the next election rolls round - so there is little point in getting het up about what he thinks or feels.

I admire him for his principles, and I am in agreement with him regarding the bombing in Syria, the renewal of Trident.

But then again, I don’t have to stand up in the Commons and defend my views.

I agree with him that bombing in Syria is unlikely to achieve anything in terms of eradicating IS – what it will do is ensure that the next revenge bombing moves a lot closer than Paris or Brussels.
ls.

[Rosetta]

The man is stuck in his hippy anti-establisment student days. NEWS___ the world has moved on from his hippy 60/70s days. I would not trust him to defend the country. Whether he is right or wrong on this issue, and think he is wrong, his mindset sets him as a dinosaur of the Cold War

[naomi24]

I agree, Rosetta. He's an old hippy still dreaming unrealistically of a Utopian world that can never exist.

[Zacs-Master]

Well, I tell you what Andy. I'd rather be blown up as an aggressor than as a pacifist.

[Rosetta]

A H how can u admire a man whose mindset is so clearly routed in the ideology of the past. sorry the post is slow, problems p

[Peter Pedant]

Well he has history on his side

the first air campaign that didnt win anything was the aerial bombing campaign in Iraq in 1919.

Guernica - thirties - london 1940
Barlin 1943-5
Tokyo 1945

The list is endless

Chilldo - do you want troops on the ground ?
I can tell you there is no appetite in civilians to send you and your relations to early deaths in the middle east

unlike Tony Blair who lied and lied and lied .....

[Peter Pedant]

O jesus Vietnam 1970s]
@ we will bomb them back to the Stone Age

and so on

[ChillDoubt]

PP,
The previous conflicts you've mentioned don't really come into play as many of the incidents and places you've mentioned involved carpet bombing. This is the 21st century, where precision targeting is the norm.
As for troops on the ground (Infantry Brigade strength), there's no need. There are already a large amount of UK and US Special Forces already in theatre who are managing admirably, they just need a bit more firepower (in the shape of British aircrew) at their disposal.
I'm frankly amazed it's taken us this long to even contemplate getting involved in the aerial side of things, it should have happened months ago.

[ChillDoubt]

From the link:

Mr Corbyn's decision to write to MPs before the shadow cabinet had reached agreement was criticised by a senior shadow minister, who told BBC assistant political editor Norman Smith: "There will be resignations among senior members of the shadow cabinet over this."
He said Mr Corbyn's letter had led to a breakdown of trust within the shadow cabinet, which had not been consulted before it was sent.
A British serviceman would be "insulted" by Mr Corbyn's "ridiculous party games" he said, adding: "We are becoming a complete joke."
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Only weeks into his tenure and he's already lurching from one crisis to another. He's even making the Lib Dems of 12 months ago look like a credible outfit, and that's going some!

[ChillDoubt]

Our participation, technology and expertise are very much sought after and required:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34930502

[237SJ]

I agree with him. Air strikes will do nothing without troops on the ground. They will just make the UK even more of a target for terrorism that it already is.

[ChillDoubt]

Define 'even more of a target'? You either are, or you aren't. I suspect you actually mean vulnerability, which increases every day we do nothing.

[237SJ]

Target = reprisals. I can`t say I`m looking forward to the prospect of being hunted down through hotel corridors. Still, the powers that be don`t have to worry about such things when they are sitting in their nice safe offices.

[ChillDoubt]

We've been the subject of several foiled attempts this year already. Do you want to sit back and await what seems inevitable, or try and prevent it?

[237SJ]

We won`t prevent it. ISIS are like a fungus that can pop up anywhere in the world. Air strikes won`t stop them.

[ChillDoubt]

So we'll just sit and twiddle our thumbs and await a Paris style attack then?
Brilliant strategy! Sadly Corbyn is of the same mindset.