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Ok ok thanks for not suing us but surely Gitmo is an American operation! So on what basis is the UK culpable anyway?
Ok ok thanks for not suing us but surely Gitmo is an American operation! So on what basis is the UK culpable anyway?
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Shame he wouldnt go back to saudi....odd in fact...theres a few people involved here all guilty of something !...do i care though...NOPE....
hes even said he doesnt want to see any more or any further prosecutions of those involved blah blah ...again...odd...unless ...."you want your compo mateyboy and a nice council house blah blah ? then read this (hands him a piece of paper)and stick with the story and youll get your million...
hes even said he doesnt want to see any more or any further prosecutions of those involved blah blah ...again...odd...unless ...."you want your compo mateyboy and a nice council house blah blah ? then read this (hands him a piece of paper)and stick with the story and youll get your million...
TTT...without reading all the posts on this, it appear that the British were present when he was tortured ( oh sorry...interrogated )..dave has said that Britain does not condone torture, so why did our Governments, of both political hues, stand by and watch this man be detained for 14 years without charge of trial ?
If you haven't listened to the full interview he gave BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme, I suggest you do so.
If you haven't listened to the full interview he gave BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme, I suggest you do so.
PP:"Surprising 3T - you seem to accept he was tortured but not by the right people ....
doesnt a little bit of you - your fingernails perhaps- tell you we shouldnt be doing that ..... rather than - I know! I'll leavethe room and the torture can continue but I can then deny it all .....if I dont see then it didnt occur "
mikey: "TTT...without reading all the posts on this, it appear that the British were present when he was tortured ( oh sorry...interrogated )..dave has said that Britain does not condone torture, so why did our Governments, of both political hues, stand by and watch this man be detained for 14 years without charge of trial ? "
You both seem to want a debate on whether torture took place and what a witness to such torture should reasonably do. I'm making no comment on policy regarding interrogation/torture. How can a witness to something suable themselves be suable is all I'm asking.
doesnt a little bit of you - your fingernails perhaps- tell you we shouldnt be doing that ..... rather than - I know! I'll leavethe room and the torture can continue but I can then deny it all .....if I dont see then it didnt occur "
mikey: "TTT...without reading all the posts on this, it appear that the British were present when he was tortured ( oh sorry...interrogated )..dave has said that Britain does not condone torture, so why did our Governments, of both political hues, stand by and watch this man be detained for 14 years without charge of trial ? "
You both seem to want a debate on whether torture took place and what a witness to such torture should reasonably do. I'm making no comment on policy regarding interrogation/torture. How can a witness to something suable themselves be suable is all I'm asking.
Retrocop...you have misread what I posted. I said that "there was no doubt that he knew that a Englishman was present during his ordeal"
No doubt that he knew.
I wasn't there but the Enquiry that has been set up will decide whether Britain was involved or not. At present the evidence seems to imply that Britain was.
No doubt that he knew.
I wasn't there but the Enquiry that has been set up will decide whether Britain was involved or not. At present the evidence seems to imply that Britain was.
TTT ( 18:24 )..But he has said that he doesn't intend to sue Britain, so we appear to be chasing our tails on that issue.
At the very least, Britain was aware that this British resident was being held without charge or trial for 14 years....there is no doubt about that...they cannot possibly have NOT known.
Perhaps Britain should have done more to get him released ?
At the very least, Britain was aware that this British resident was being held without charge or trial for 14 years....there is no doubt about that...they cannot possibly have NOT known.
Perhaps Britain should have done more to get him released ?
The reason we were spun that he left the UK for Afghanistan was a charitable cause to help build a girl's school in Taliban/Al Queda domain ?
Tonight he says he left the comfort of his adopted country, of which he is not a citizen, because his wife did not feel comfortable with the comments directed at her in the UK because she wore typical muslim female attire.
Why take her to Afghanistan? He is a Saudi citizen isn't he? Take her home.
He freely admits to be a friend of a notorious Al queda firebrand. ???
Mr Shakaar has a lot more explaining to do before I get mugged into believing he is a hapless victim.
Tonight he says he left the comfort of his adopted country, of which he is not a citizen, because his wife did not feel comfortable with the comments directed at her in the UK because she wore typical muslim female attire.
Why take her to Afghanistan? He is a Saudi citizen isn't he? Take her home.
He freely admits to be a friend of a notorious Al queda firebrand. ???
Mr Shakaar has a lot more explaining to do before I get mugged into believing he is a hapless victim.
Did we try German POWs in a court of law, Italians?
Very hard to prove criminal cases against enemy combatants.
yup sxhweik we sure did - Nuremberg trials
but in fact POWs werent much prosecuted as a result of the Geneva and Hague conventions
and doesnt apply to Syria as we are not at war with syria
and no Gitmo could not happen in UK law as it is settled that the outlying posts such as Gitmo's equivalent ARE subject to English Law ( unlike their american counterparts which is kinda weird - I have never understtood that )
Very hard to prove criminal cases against enemy combatants.
yup sxhweik we sure did - Nuremberg trials
but in fact POWs werent much prosecuted as a result of the Geneva and Hague conventions
and doesnt apply to Syria as we are not at war with syria
and no Gitmo could not happen in UK law as it is settled that the outlying posts such as Gitmo's equivalent ARE subject to English Law ( unlike their american counterparts which is kinda weird - I have never understtood that )
