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I have lived in Saudi Arabia , there is no way you would get entry with a passport that did not state your gender. Same for Egypt, Bahrain and Kenya where I have also traveled. There are many places inthe world where gender is considered vitally important. If we issued gender free passports large areas of the world would be closed to UK citizens.
21:26 Mon 04th Jan 2016
The article notes that it's already happened in Australia. Let's watch what happens there for a few years, see what difference it makes if any, and then reassess.
But can anyone seriously come up with a good -- irrefutably necessary -- reason why you need to declare your gender on a passport in the first place?
But can anyone seriously come up with a good -- irrefutably necessary -- reason why you need to declare your gender on a passport in the first place?
As long as the suggestion is simply that new passports should no longer indicate gender (rather than replacing all existing ones!), the idea makes perfect sense to me. There's no logical reason why a passport should state the bearer's gender so, if doing so causes problems for some people, it would be best to abandon the practice.
/// "Australia has decided to degender their passports." ///
No they haven't, they have allowed a third gender option.
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No they haven't, they have allowed a third gender option.
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Well, because of the "tiny minority". They are law-abiding citizens with a right to travel, after all, and if it creates some sort of horrific mess whereby they have to identify legally as a gender other than that they identify themselves as, then it's something of a mess.
That said, again I'm suggesting that rather than dismiss the idea out of hand we should use Australia as an example and see how it works in practice before rushing to implement/ dismiss it. May turn out to have unfortunate repercussions in the form of security implications -- I doubt that is true but if it were then we should find out before adopting a change on behalf of what is admittedly a small minority.
It's frustrating, though, to see an idea designed to cater to a group of people that, however small, still exists and deserves legal recognition, being dismissed out of hand as "lunatic" -- or "pathetic", which is the word my Dad used last night.
That said, again I'm suggesting that rather than dismiss the idea out of hand we should use Australia as an example and see how it works in practice before rushing to implement/ dismiss it. May turn out to have unfortunate repercussions in the form of security implications -- I doubt that is true but if it were then we should find out before adopting a change on behalf of what is admittedly a small minority.
It's frustrating, though, to see an idea designed to cater to a group of people that, however small, still exists and deserves legal recognition, being dismissed out of hand as "lunatic" -- or "pathetic", which is the word my Dad used last night.
//"There have been very many cases of people being detained at airports by immigration in foreign countries simply because their passports don't reflect what they look like," she told Australian radio.//
No wonder her surname is Pratt. If a immigration officer is confronted by a passenger that bears no resemblance to the passport details what are they expected to do.
Reminds me of an episode of "Come fly with me".
No wonder her surname is Pratt. If a immigration officer is confronted by a passenger that bears no resemblance to the passport details what are they expected to do.
Reminds me of an episode of "Come fly with me".
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