Why Don't The Migrants In Calais/dunkirk Want To Apply To France?

[ToraToraTora]

Just watched the news about the new refugee camp being set up but most of them are refusing to move in case it is construed as claiming asylum in France. One chap interviewed said he would accept nothing less than England. Surely France is a lot better than wherever they came from, I don't understand.

[Togo]

Benefits are better in England and more 'support' from our lawyers and fifth columnist trots.

[237SJ]

They can`t get free emergency health care in France

[ToraToraTora]

yeah but surely France has all those things?

[fiction-factory]

Most migrants in Europe choose not to come to Britain Many migrants choose to stop in Germany or Belgium, some are happy with France and some want to come to Britain. Those in Calais are indeed ones who for whatever reason are really keen to come here. there are probably lots of reasons- friends here, stories , our health service, availability of jobs that locals won't do, promises made to them by people smugglers, our football or TV. Doesn't it make you feel proud that they choose us?

[Buenchico]

Many of the people hoping to enter the UK believe myths about the easy life that they'll have here.

Many of those myths are fuelled, ironically, by newspapers such as the Daily Mail which publish (usually inaccurate and/or wildly exaggerated) stories headlined, say, 'Unemployed Migrant Family of 10 Living on £80,000 per Year Benefits in Council-Funded Mansion'.

A relevant link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33907741

[-Talbot-]

They most probably speak English not French.

[grasscarp]

One of the reasons is that we don't require people to have ID cards, whereas most countries including France do. To introduce them here would be one way of making UK less attractive.

[237SJ]

But still - if they need emergency health care, they will get it free in the UK

[Buenchico]

>>> Most migrants in Europe choose not to come to Britain

Agreed. Germany, Belgium and Sweden are more popular destinations for many migrants than the UK is.

[237SJ]

And emergency health care can be a loose term

[anotheoldgit]

The reintroduction of National Service would solve the problem, those already here would leave and those who wished to come here, would no longer.

[ichkeria]

Also, no doubt the perception that the Channel is a barrier which if it can be crossed will leave them safer from what they have come from.
I have a certain grim respect for some of the people who would rather put up with those conditions than settle for second best.
As fiction says, it ought to make us proud :-) And all these tabloid stories, and no doubt spin from people traffickers, UK-based and others, must help.
Would I want to live in a country which migrants were not keen to flee to? Not sure I would. Swings, as they say, and roundabouts.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Would I want to live in a country which migrants were not keen to flee to? Not sure I would. ///

If things go on as they are now, soon this country may well be one of those countries.

[jomifl]

You can't get anything other than a labouring job in France if you don't speak French and without a passport you don't exist.

[TWR]

If you have the bottle to state your Views, what "DO YOU" think of the Migrants in Calais?

[bazwillrun]

Filth...

[bazwillrun]

@TWR

As you can see TWR this site doesnt like the truth too much, so it removes answers...
im thinking of putting a little site together, or maybe a FB page so that anybody who sees a post likely to be pulled can copy post it there and or post the gist of a removed post if they were lucky enough to see it before it was removed..

[New Judge]

“Doesn't it make you feel proud that they choose us?”

No it does not. It makes me feel an idiot for being taken for a ride (albeit courtesy of the government).

The people in Calais are not asylum seekers. They lost that privilege when they failed to report to the authorities in their first safe haven. Asylum seekers are seeking safety from war, danger or persecution. There is none of that in in France. No, they are migrants seeking to enter – illegally – their destination of choice. There are many reasons why they want to come to the UK, most of which have been mentioned. But, tough as it is, that is not an option open to them.

Europe has spectacularly mishandled the migrant crisis. In particular Frau Merkel, in offering her open invitation to all and sundry has enabled all the chancers to jump on the bandwagon (such as the gentleman who “fled” from a house and a job which he had enjoyed in Turkey for more than three years and placed his family in a rubber boat to cross to Greece. Tragically his young son drowned and pictures of his body on a Greek beach were posed as a “game changer” in the migrant crisis).

Whether they want to or not those in Calais and Dunkirk should be compelled to apply for asylum in France or get out. In fact, under the Dublin Treaty they should have been compelled to apply in their first port of call. The fact that the EU’s own rules were ignored when the solids hit the air conditioning is scarcely the UK’s fault. The EU’s “right to roam” (aka the Schengen Agreement) has exacerbated the problem no end and the folly of this arrangement is now being realised. Meantime the French can keep their guests because the answer to the problem is theirs to find, not ours.