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Whether or not you are in favour of keeping the English Sunday opening times as they are, should Scottish MPs be allowed to vote for them to stay as they are, even though it doesn't affect them, since Scottish shops are allowed to open longer on a Sunday?
Whether or not you are in favour of keeping the English Sunday opening times as they are, should Scottish MPs be allowed to vote for them to stay as they are, even though it doesn't affect them, since Scottish shops are allowed to open longer on a Sunday?
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"During the Thatcher years when a Tory MP north of the border was rarer than the Loch Ness Monster..."
That would be the Blair years.
The number of Conservative MPs returned by Scotland to Thatcher Governments were:
1979 - 22
1983- 21
1987 - 10
Post-Thatcher, John Major's 1992 General Election victory included 11 Scottish Mps.
That would be the Blair years.
The number of Conservative MPs returned by Scotland to Thatcher Governments were:
1979 - 22
1983- 21
1987 - 10
Post-Thatcher, John Major's 1992 General Election victory included 11 Scottish Mps.
There are two aspects to this.
Firstly, it is unreasonable to expect the opposition to vote with the government. Their job is to oppose. The SNP is part of the opposition and I imagine (though have not checked) that SNP MPs have voted against the government on most issues in the last nine months or so and this was no different. The government has an overall majority and the reason this measure was defeated was because some of their own MPs rebelled against them.
However, more important than that, Mr Cameron pledged (among many other things) to prevent Scottish MPs voting in Westminster on matters that did not affect their constituents. In was his promise to address the “West Lothian Question”. The SNP, for their part, made a loose undertaking not to block measures which do not affect the Scots. Whatever contortion the SNP may use to dress up this matter, it would have little or no effect on people in Scotland.
Mr Cameron needs to urgently address the democratic imbalance that exists between the Scots and the English and if it encourages the Scots to demand a second referendum (where they will hopefully vote to leave the UK) then that will be a bonus.
Firstly, it is unreasonable to expect the opposition to vote with the government. Their job is to oppose. The SNP is part of the opposition and I imagine (though have not checked) that SNP MPs have voted against the government on most issues in the last nine months or so and this was no different. The government has an overall majority and the reason this measure was defeated was because some of their own MPs rebelled against them.
However, more important than that, Mr Cameron pledged (among many other things) to prevent Scottish MPs voting in Westminster on matters that did not affect their constituents. In was his promise to address the “West Lothian Question”. The SNP, for their part, made a loose undertaking not to block measures which do not affect the Scots. Whatever contortion the SNP may use to dress up this matter, it would have little or no effect on people in Scotland.
Mr Cameron needs to urgently address the democratic imbalance that exists between the Scots and the English and if it encourages the Scots to demand a second referendum (where they will hopefully vote to leave the UK) then that will be a bonus.
> The government has an overall majority and the reason this measure was defeated was because some of their own MPs rebelled against them.
That's the nub of it.
If the SNP had no seats in Scotland, but instead we were talking about a mix of Labour, Lib Dem and a few Tory MPs in Scotland and the rest of the UK defeating this bill, would this issue get the same attention? No - it would be seen as the Tories defeating themselves. But because of the SNP "block vote", it's portrayable as Scottish MPs defeating it ...
That's the nub of it.
If the SNP had no seats in Scotland, but instead we were talking about a mix of Labour, Lib Dem and a few Tory MPs in Scotland and the rest of the UK defeating this bill, would this issue get the same attention? No - it would be seen as the Tories defeating themselves. But because of the SNP "block vote", it's portrayable as Scottish MPs defeating it ...
I have no wish to enter a political debate - just want to say that I was brought up in an era when we had half day shopping on a Wednesday and my parents didn't shop on a Sunday. No big supermarkets then of course. I still don't shop on a Sunday as I find that 6 days/24 hour shopping is more than enough for me.
No they clearly ought not. Too much is made of the excuse that they think something might just affect them somehow, maybe. They're worse than the EU for imposing.
That said I don't want a postcode lottery about whether shops are open or closed in my area. It's a national issue affecting the public and shop employees the same across the whole of Britain, not a local one.
That said I don't want a postcode lottery about whether shops are open or closed in my area. It's a national issue affecting the public and shop employees the same across the whole of Britain, not a local one.
// The Midlothian Question as been around for a long time now AOG, and its not going to go away. //
MPs are not delegates but representatives
Nasty Nicola still has to get over the fact she supports an independent scotland ( smaller unit ) and supports the EU ( much larger unit )
being scots and a gurl - she thinks she can have it both ways
( sorry bit of a sordid reference there )
MPs are not delegates but representatives
Nasty Nicola still has to get over the fact she supports an independent scotland ( smaller unit ) and supports the EU ( much larger unit )
being scots and a gurl - she thinks she can have it both ways
( sorry bit of a sordid reference there )
IMO MPs should reflect the majority opinion in their constituency, if they make any pretence to living in a democracy. Given that this is wishful thinking, and democracy a pipe dream, the job of an opposition would be to oppose bad law, not all on principle. Parliament should be making things better for the people, not worse; although no MP seems to realise this.
Naomi....if all the Tory MPs had voted for it, the Bill would have gone through. He has a majority in the HOC.
The first thing a General does when he marches into battle is to check that his own troops are behind him, and on this occasion, not enough were !
If Dave can't rely on his own MPs, then he didn't do his homework properly.
The first thing a General does when he marches into battle is to check that his own troops are behind him, and on this occasion, not enough were !
If Dave can't rely on his own MPs, then he didn't do his homework properly.
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