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Looks like the reds are getting out from under the bed! Jezza must be loving it, just like old times!
Looks like the reds are getting out from under the bed! Jezza must be loving it, just like old times!
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I realise you must by now be acutely embarrassed about voting for Corbyn. That was an act that has massively backfired.
But you must learn to drop it. You obsession with Corbyn and Labour gets more and more silly with your every post.
The fact that thousands of people who left the Labour Party during the Blair years are now returning is hardly a sign that it is dead. An increase in grassroots membership is usually a sign of an healthy party.
Under Cameron, Conservative Party membership has halved. Many of its grassroots members have defected to UKIP. That is what you ought to be worrying about.
But you must learn to drop it. You obsession with Corbyn and Labour gets more and more silly with your every post.
The fact that thousands of people who left the Labour Party during the Blair years are now returning is hardly a sign that it is dead. An increase in grassroots membership is usually a sign of an healthy party.
Under Cameron, Conservative Party membership has halved. Many of its grassroots members have defected to UKIP. That is what you ought to be worrying about.
not sure how it's back fired gromit, Labour are more unelectable than ever and get worse by the day. I point out these things from the press because the Labour party supporters on here mysteriously seem to miss them. I do have an obsession but it's aim broader than JC, the general destruction of socialism and the beleif that socialism can work.
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"That those principles make him and his party unelectable is neither here nor there." - Yes I applaud the sticking to principle of JC and co, he will be a fine addition to those party leaders of the past that never became PM. The problem is that his principles are not the principles, by and large, of the voters.
The Tory party does look fragile at the moment, but that's more because the leadership aren't as right-wing as its supporters would like. Hard to see many disgruntled Tories flocking to Labour. If this does happen, the 2020 election might be pretty interesting, to say the least. Depends who the Conservatives choose as leader.
Jim...like Naomi, I can't see many, if any Tories flocking to join Labour.
Pigs will fly in formation before that happens.
But its interesting to see what will happen to the Tory Party, after the Referendum. Currently, Dave's colleagues are queuing up to stick knives in his back, and its not even a very orderly queue at that.
Pigs will fly in formation before that happens.
But its interesting to see what will happen to the Tory Party, after the Referendum. Currently, Dave's colleagues are queuing up to stick knives in his back, and its not even a very orderly queue at that.
Oh darn it, another drafting error on my part. The "this" was disgruntled Tories leaving the Tory party in large numbers, rather than going to Labour specifically. I had pictured 2020 as an election where Labour support dropped to, say, 25%, the Conservatives to less than a third, and minor parties splitting the rest, but still delivering a Tory majority. Obviously, it's too far ahead to call this, and in particular may depend heavily on the new Conservative leader. But I'd not be too surprised if 2020 were either a Tory landslide, or one of the most shocking results of a broken voting system ever, rather than somewhere in between.
After the referendum, UKIP will be irrelevent.
Their supporters will either re-join the Conservatives, or form a new party withy half the Conservative Party if it splits. There is probably a need for a credible rightist party. Cametons Conservatives and the LibDems could merge to form a right of centre party, and Labour will be the leftist party.
That would give the voters a proper choice instead of the 3 parties trying to be the same, as we have had for the last 20 years.
Their supporters will either re-join the Conservatives, or form a new party withy half the Conservative Party if it splits. There is probably a need for a credible rightist party. Cametons Conservatives and the LibDems could merge to form a right of centre party, and Labour will be the leftist party.
That would give the voters a proper choice instead of the 3 parties trying to be the same, as we have had for the last 20 years.
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