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Nothing at all to do with the refugees.
The Turkey - Kurdish conflict has been ongoing since 1978. The Kurds live in the east of Turkey and want autonomy.
After losing the first world war on the side of the German, the Tirkish Ottoman empire was carved up by the British and the French. The Kurds were promised there own country, but after we divided up the region, the Kurdish people found themselves stateless and distributed in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey.
After the invasion of Iraq, the Kurds were able to establish and run their own area in Northern Turkey and everyone was happy. Well not everyone, the move greatly upset Turkey, who began an aggressive clampdown on its own Kurds and the conflict got much worse.
In the Syrian civil war, the Syrian Kurds have been fight Assads army with som success. That is they were until Turkey began to bomb them from the air.
So if Kurdish bombers are at work in Turkey, it is from its own people.
The Turkey - Kurdish conflict has been ongoing since 1978. The Kurds live in the east of Turkey and want autonomy.
After losing the first world war on the side of the German, the Tirkish Ottoman empire was carved up by the British and the French. The Kurds were promised there own country, but after we divided up the region, the Kurdish people found themselves stateless and distributed in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey.
After the invasion of Iraq, the Kurds were able to establish and run their own area in Northern Turkey and everyone was happy. Well not everyone, the move greatly upset Turkey, who began an aggressive clampdown on its own Kurds and the conflict got much worse.
In the Syrian civil war, the Syrian Kurds have been fight Assads army with som success. That is they were until Turkey began to bomb them from the air.
So if Kurdish bombers are at work in Turkey, it is from its own people.
// Defeat in World War I resulted in a harsh peace treaty for the Ottoman Empire. The Treaty of Sèvres (1920) stripped Turkey of all its European territory except for a small area around Constantinople (now Istanbul); demilitarized the straits between the Black and Mediterranean seas; established an independent Armenia and an autonomous Kurdistan in eastern Anatolia.
The Lausanne conference in 1923 resulted in seventeen diplomatic instruments. Turkey recognized the loss of its Arab provinces, but plans for an independent Armenia and an autonomous Kurdistan were abandoned. //
The Lausanne conference in 1923 resulted in seventeen diplomatic instruments. Turkey recognized the loss of its Arab provinces, but plans for an independent Armenia and an autonomous Kurdistan were abandoned. //
Gromit
Thanks for the history lesson Gromit, but it still hasn't been ruled out regarding IS being involved.
/// Efkan Ala, the interior minister, said the government would not say which group they believed was responsible for the attack until Monday. ///
/// "I believe the investigation will be concluded tomorrow and the findings will be announced," he said. ///
/// The country has been hit by a spate of deadly bombings including its worst attack in the capital late last year during which 103 people were killed after a twin suicide bombing by Isil-linked terrorists. ///
Thanks for the history lesson Gromit, but it still hasn't been ruled out regarding IS being involved.
/// Efkan Ala, the interior minister, said the government would not say which group they believed was responsible for the attack until Monday. ///
/// "I believe the investigation will be concluded tomorrow and the findings will be announced," he said. ///
/// The country has been hit by a spate of deadly bombings including its worst attack in the capital late last year during which 103 people were killed after a twin suicide bombing by Isil-linked terrorists. ///
AOG,
Turkey has been buying oil from IS.
They have been bombing the Syrian Kurds who are fighting IS.
Turkey is not a major threat to ISIL. They seem to have some sort of truce.
From Wikipedia:
// Turkey has, despite national and international criticism, largely refused to directly engage militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), despite continued threats from ISIL to pursue more operations on Turkish soil. The Turkish response to the ISIL-led Siege of Kobanî as well as a series of terrorist attacks on Turkish soil allegedly linked to ISIL perpetrators, was largely subdued apart from a series of incidents on the Turkish-Syrian border. On 24 July 2015, ISIL and Turkish soldiers actively engaged in the Turkish border town of Kilis, marking a dangerous new escalation in the ties between Turkey and ISIL.[45]
On August 25, 2015 Turkish newspaper Bugün ran a front-page story showing alleged transfer of weapon and explosives from Turkey to ISIL through Akcakale border post. A couple of days later offices of Koza İpek Media Group, the owner of the newspaper, were raided by Turkish police.[46][47]
In late November 2015, Turkey started tougher controls to stop ISIL militants crossing on a 60-mile stretch of the border with Syria where ISIL had control of the Syrian side. The crossing was used for smuggling and for arms transfers. This followed Russian President Putin directly accusing Turkey of aiding ISIL and al-Qaeda, and pressure from the U.S. //
Turkey has been buying oil from IS.
They have been bombing the Syrian Kurds who are fighting IS.
Turkey is not a major threat to ISIL. They seem to have some sort of truce.
From Wikipedia:
// Turkey has, despite national and international criticism, largely refused to directly engage militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), despite continued threats from ISIL to pursue more operations on Turkish soil. The Turkish response to the ISIL-led Siege of Kobanî as well as a series of terrorist attacks on Turkish soil allegedly linked to ISIL perpetrators, was largely subdued apart from a series of incidents on the Turkish-Syrian border. On 24 July 2015, ISIL and Turkish soldiers actively engaged in the Turkish border town of Kilis, marking a dangerous new escalation in the ties between Turkey and ISIL.[45]
On August 25, 2015 Turkish newspaper Bugün ran a front-page story showing alleged transfer of weapon and explosives from Turkey to ISIL through Akcakale border post. A couple of days later offices of Koza İpek Media Group, the owner of the newspaper, were raided by Turkish police.[46][47]
In late November 2015, Turkey started tougher controls to stop ISIL militants crossing on a 60-mile stretch of the border with Syria where ISIL had control of the Syrian side. The crossing was used for smuggling and for arms transfers. This followed Russian President Putin directly accusing Turkey of aiding ISIL and al-Qaeda, and pressure from the U.S. //
Retrocop,
You have it right.
Turkey are supposed to be on our side in the fight against IS, but in reality, most of their fighting is against the Syrian Kurds. The Syrian Kurds are fighting IS and Assads Syrian Army.
The Russian plane shot down in Syria by Turkey, was attacking IS positions that were protecting the border corridor - Turkish weapons to IS, IS oil to Turkey.
You have it right.
Turkey are supposed to be on our side in the fight against IS, but in reality, most of their fighting is against the Syrian Kurds. The Syrian Kurds are fighting IS and Assads Syrian Army.
The Russian plane shot down in Syria by Turkey, was attacking IS positions that were protecting the border corridor - Turkish weapons to IS, IS oil to Turkey.
I don't believe the Kurds are fighting against the Syrian Army.
They are, sort of, on the same side.
I've read previously that Syrian Army officers liaise with the Kurds and the Syrian Police Force maintain a presence in Kurdish held regions.
Perhaps you meant The Syrian Free Army. ie, the 'west-friendly' arm of IS.
They are, sort of, on the same side.
I've read previously that Syrian Army officers liaise with the Kurds and the Syrian Police Force maintain a presence in Kurdish held regions.
Perhaps you meant The Syrian Free Army. ie, the 'west-friendly' arm of IS.
Well I was aware of the tanker convoys of POL to Turkey by Daesh and knew the Russians bombed them to smithereens but wasn't sure the Turks were actively arming Daesh as well. More of a reason IMO why we leave the EU if the Turks get EU passports.
Lucky Mr Putin hasn't bombed Turkey or has.........................
Lucky Mr Putin hasn't bombed Turkey or has.........................
No Svejk, you have that wrong.
The Syrian Kurds are in conflict with Assad. The Syrian free army has many Kurdish fighters.
https:/
The Free Syrian Army (FSA) is mainly Assads soldiers who have changed sides. The FSA is in an alliance with the Syrian Kurds
// n September 2014, FSA allied with moderate Muslim rebel groups and with the mostly Christian Syriac Military Council against Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), and allied with the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) against both ISIL and Assad. //
The Syrian Kurds are in conflict with Assad. The Syrian free army has many Kurdish fighters.
https:/
The Free Syrian Army (FSA) is mainly Assads soldiers who have changed sides. The FSA is in an alliance with the Syrian Kurds
// n September 2014, FSA allied with moderate Muslim rebel groups and with the mostly Christian Syriac Military Council against Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), and allied with the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) against both ISIL and Assad. //
Not that wrong, gromit. From your own link;
In July 2015, YPG and regime forces cooperated against ISIS during the Battle of Al-Hasakah.[28]
In July 2015, PYD leader Salih Muslim announced that the YPG was willing to join the Syrian army if the government committed to official decentralization of powers.[29]
On August 4, 2015, the YPG laid out terms for collaboration with the Syrian government.[30]
On August 9, 2015, in response to allegations of collaboration with the regime, a YPG spokesman issued a statement that the YPG will "collaborate with anyone to expel extremists" from northeastern Syria.[31]
On September 16, 2015, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad announced that Syria was open to decentralization proposals after the conflict between the government and opposition groups was over.[32]
On October 9, 2015, PYD officials reportedly held talks with representatives of the Syrian government and the Russian military in Damascus and Latakia about a joint effort against ISIS.[33]
On December 7, 2015, Assad affirmed that his government had supplied arms to the PYD, and said he had documents to verify his claim.[34]
In July 2015, YPG and regime forces cooperated against ISIS during the Battle of Al-Hasakah.[28]
In July 2015, PYD leader Salih Muslim announced that the YPG was willing to join the Syrian army if the government committed to official decentralization of powers.[29]
On August 4, 2015, the YPG laid out terms for collaboration with the Syrian government.[30]
On August 9, 2015, in response to allegations of collaboration with the regime, a YPG spokesman issued a statement that the YPG will "collaborate with anyone to expel extremists" from northeastern Syria.[31]
On September 16, 2015, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad announced that Syria was open to decentralization proposals after the conflict between the government and opposition groups was over.[32]
On October 9, 2015, PYD officials reportedly held talks with representatives of the Syrian government and the Russian military in Damascus and Latakia about a joint effort against ISIS.[33]
On December 7, 2015, Assad affirmed that his government had supplied arms to the PYD, and said he had documents to verify his claim.[34]
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