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Noah's Flood Was Real!
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According to this Texan bloke, anyway.
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@sandyRoe
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The world was a far more parochial place then than it is now. It's likely the gospel talked of the known world submerged. None of the mountains in the vicinity of the Holy Land are particularly high.
19:00 Sun 20th Mar 2016
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My atlas has a peak call Qurnat as Sawdā, 3088 metres (over 9000 feet) ESE from Tarabulus, in Lebanon.
Mt Hermon 2814m
Mt Sinai 2637m
I'll have to Google to find Ararat. I'll be right back
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The world was a far more parochial place then than it is now. It's likely the gospel talked of the known world submerged. None of the mountains in the vicinity of the Holy Land are particularly high.
19:00 Sun 20th Mar 2016
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My atlas has a peak call Qurnat as Sawdā, 3088 metres (over 9000 feet) ESE from Tarabulus, in Lebanon.
Mt Hermon 2814m
Mt Sinai 2637m
I'll have to Google to find Ararat. I'll be right back
Jom, //Why didn't the salt get washed out of the dead sea by the flood?//
Perhaps it did and has since reverted. From the internet, //The Dead Sea is landlocked and in the lowest valley on earth. All the minerals of the surrounding countryside get washed into one pool, which in turn gets baked by the sun. This concentrates the salts so much that the Dead Sea is 10 times as salty as the ocean.//
Taking a dip in the Dead Sea is horrible. The water feels slimy.
Perhaps it did and has since reverted. From the internet, //The Dead Sea is landlocked and in the lowest valley on earth. All the minerals of the surrounding countryside get washed into one pool, which in turn gets baked by the sun. This concentrates the salts so much that the Dead Sea is 10 times as salty as the ocean.//
Taking a dip in the Dead Sea is horrible. The water feels slimy.
(via Google)
"Although aircraft cabins are pressurized, cabin air pressure at cruising altitude is lower than air pressure at sea level. At typical cruising altitudes in the range 11 000–12 200 m (36 000–40 000 feet), air pressure in the cabin is equivalent to the outside air pressure at 1800–2400 m (6000–8000 feet) above sea level."
Everest Base camp = 17,600 ft. Cases of lung and cerebral oedema are not unknown even among visitors who never went any higher than that.
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The section of the earth's crust on which the Dead Sea sits is undergoing stretching and thinning and everything between the two major faults is dropping down (like the proverbial falling betweel two stools). Death Valley in California is doing much the same.
"Although aircraft cabins are pressurized, cabin air pressure at cruising altitude is lower than air pressure at sea level. At typical cruising altitudes in the range 11 000–12 200 m (36 000–40 000 feet), air pressure in the cabin is equivalent to the outside air pressure at 1800–2400 m (6000–8000 feet) above sea level."
Everest Base camp = 17,600 ft. Cases of lung and cerebral oedema are not unknown even among visitors who never went any higher than that.
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The section of the earth's crust on which the Dead Sea sits is undergoing stretching and thinning and everything between the two major faults is dropping down (like the proverbial falling betweel two stools). Death Valley in California is doing much the same.
@SandyRoe
//Whether river deep or mountain high isn't the issue.//
It is *entirely* the issue, Sandy! Look at the thread title.
Your eco-message is very laudable, much the sort of thing I'd say myself (if that was the topic, which it is not) but a complete and utter evasion of what I posted about high peaks in the Levant. (Ararat is in Eastern Turkey, making the starting point and direction/duration of drift a matter for speculative discussion, later).
Nobody has mentioned the Bosporous breach theory but it is highly conjectural. Supposed drowned habitations on the bed of the Black Sea are supposed to have been found and filmed but I've not seen these first hand and cannot judge, for myself.
Mainstream science already accepts that the oceans rose by as much as 400m, quite abruptly (less than a century, appreciable in a human lifespan) as the last glaciation melted away, so it is feasible that the Mediterranean overtoppe, or eroded its way through a blockage, flooding the Black Sea basin in a catastrophic manner.
This could be as much as 10,000 years ago; far enough back to spawn many flood stories, as in Gilgamesh. It would have been remiss of the Bible compilers to leave it out because it is held as a demonstration of god's power and his will to destroy the sinful, in huge numbers. The forgiveness of Jesus holds little weight unless it is set in stark contrast with the unforgiving, mass-killer god, of old.
//Whether river deep or mountain high isn't the issue.//
It is *entirely* the issue, Sandy! Look at the thread title.
Your eco-message is very laudable, much the sort of thing I'd say myself (if that was the topic, which it is not) but a complete and utter evasion of what I posted about high peaks in the Levant. (Ararat is in Eastern Turkey, making the starting point and direction/duration of drift a matter for speculative discussion, later).
Nobody has mentioned the Bosporous breach theory but it is highly conjectural. Supposed drowned habitations on the bed of the Black Sea are supposed to have been found and filmed but I've not seen these first hand and cannot judge, for myself.
Mainstream science already accepts that the oceans rose by as much as 400m, quite abruptly (less than a century, appreciable in a human lifespan) as the last glaciation melted away, so it is feasible that the Mediterranean overtoppe, or eroded its way through a blockage, flooding the Black Sea basin in a catastrophic manner.
This could be as much as 10,000 years ago; far enough back to spawn many flood stories, as in Gilgamesh. It would have been remiss of the Bible compilers to leave it out because it is held as a demonstration of god's power and his will to destroy the sinful, in huge numbers. The forgiveness of Jesus holds little weight unless it is set in stark contrast with the unforgiving, mass-killer god, of old.
@Sandy
Well that made for an enlightening Wiki visit. The Gilray certainly made it worth it. (I should really buy the book, if there is one).
"At a time when a Classical education was common, the myth of Scylla and Charybdis was often used in political cartoons. In James Gillray's Britannia between Scylla and Charybdis (3 June 1793),[3] 'William Pitt helms the ship Constitution, containing an alarmed Britannia, between the rock of democracy (with the liberty cap on its summit) and the whirlpool of arbitrary power (in the shape of an inverted crown), to the distant haven of liberty'.[4] This was in the context of the effect of the French Revolution on politics in Britain."
Well that made for an enlightening Wiki visit. The Gilray certainly made it worth it. (I should really buy the book, if there is one).
"At a time when a Classical education was common, the myth of Scylla and Charybdis was often used in political cartoons. In James Gillray's Britannia between Scylla and Charybdis (3 June 1793),[3] 'William Pitt helms the ship Constitution, containing an alarmed Britannia, between the rock of democracy (with the liberty cap on its summit) and the whirlpool of arbitrary power (in the shape of an inverted crown), to the distant haven of liberty'.[4] This was in the context of the effect of the French Revolution on politics in Britain."
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