Has Islam Been Hijacked?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35897298
interesting interview here. What can rank and file Muslims do to stop this stereotyping?

[jourdain2]

That is an excellent article and ties in with my own observations and experience as to why many are dissociated. I have also known kids, loudmouthed in school, who were locked up as soon as they reached home. There were even 2 11 year-olds who were locked in the (lighted) cellar to read and learn the Koran every day after school. I remember one uppity girl (Yr15) who was so full of what she was going to and be. Went home end of GCSE exams, returned for end of term prize-giving and speeches as a different kid. She was escorted by her brother - when I spoke to her she said she had not been allowed out of the house since she had returned from her last exam (she had been locked in her room for most of the time) and was due to go to Pakistan in September to be married off. By which time she would have her exam passes - which added to her 'Bride Price'.

To counter this - Muslims could start marching, protesting, abandoning traditional garb and refusing to submit to Sharia law. That would be a good start.

[jourdain2]

^^^ Mistype, sorry, girl was Yr. 11

[Zacs-Master]

Divebuddy, my point entirely. Not sure what Tora is on about at all.

[ToraToraTora]

others seem to have worked it out zacs, I'm not going to spell it out, if you want be obtuse carry on.

[Zacs-Master]

http://i64.tinypic.com/2q8zih2.png

[ToraToraTora]

http://abccitizen.net/memes/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sand.jpg

[jim360]

I've always been of the opinion that, if someone doesn't understand what I have said, or what meant by it, then I should probably try to make myself clearer.

[ToraToraTora]

yes I agree jim, that is not the case here. It is obvious what I am asking, Zacs is being obtuse.

[Zacs-Master]

Hey look Tora's been to the seaside.

[naomi24]

Zacsmaster agreed with divebuddy, who as far as I can tell was agreeing with TTT. Where's the argument?

[Zacs-Master]

( must be something in the water)

[naomi24]

Must be.

[jim360]

In the interests of illustrating the point, I mean that, no matter how clear I think I'm being, if the other person gives the impression of not understanding then I assume that they don't understand honestly, rather than that they are being deliberately annoying, and attempt to re-express myself more clearly still.

It just seems to be basic courtesy to assume that everyone is basically a nice chap until explicitly proven otherwise.

[naomi24]

Very noble of you, Jim. Unfortunately it doesn't always work like that here.

[Zacs-Master]

It's Tora's default setting Jim. Glass half full bloke with a chip on his shoulder about something. Classic inferiority complex trait.

[naomi24]

^See what I mean?

[jim360]

Well, it can't hurt to try.

[david small]

Ban Islam, enough already.