Brexit Bad For Young Voters ?

[gordiescotland1]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35911017
Do you think that there is something in this or is this just scaremongering

[waterboatman]

Absolute rubbish!

[Old_Geezer]

Utter scaremongering nonsense. Panic barrel bottom scraping. Young folk would benefit from being a citizen in a country that makes its own decisions and agreements, rather that one that capitulates to a multinational organisation.

[naomi24]

I wonder how she knows? Her qualification is not in industry, business, or education. It's in law. Nothing but prattle.

[waterboatman]

What gets me is that they think we'll believe all that rubbish.

[jim360]

Hmm.

I think she has a point but, like so many other people speaking in favour of remaining in the EU, she's massively overstating the case. Once again, the truth is that we have no idea whether leaving the EU would be devastating or not for young people. Or, for that matter, whether it would be beneficial or not (looking at you, OG).

What certainly is true is that most young people would rather we stayed in the EU. Perhaps that's only because we grew up in it, and never experienced whatever apparently glorious past preceded it. That is something that all voters should at least consider before casting their vote. But then, I suppose, if you were going to vote to leave the EU anyway then that's because you think it is better for Britain -- and, by extension, for its youth. I don't see how this latest intervention is going to change anything.

[Old_Geezer]

My counter opinion is that retaining/regaining control of your own destiny is beneficial for it's own sake. Only those with an inability to think and act for themselves need a carer telling them what to do and not do.

[naomi24]

Whether we remain in the EU or not, businesses, both British and European, will continue to employ people in order to do business. Business is what they do.

[gordiescotland1]

I will be voting to leave for sure nothing would convince me to remain

[bazwillrun]

"What certainly is true is that most young people would rather we stayed in the EU."

yes , thanks to the leftie teachers that are insidiously brainwashing them...

[bazwillrun]

left out "lecturers"
luckily most of these young voters are too young to vote

[New Judge]

"...we have no idea whether leaving the EU would be devastating or not for young people. "

Yes but we can take a guess. In the UK we are fortunate because we have not experienced any excrement hitting the air conditioning. This is because, wisely for once, our government kept us out of the euro and Schengen. These "concessions" will not last forever, despite the "reformations" we are continually told about. Anyone worried about the EU's pernicious affect on young people need look to Spain (youth unemployment currently around 47%, having peaked at 55% in 2013) and Greece (currently 49% from 60% in 2013).

[Ellipsis]

> What certainly is true is that most young people would rather we stayed in the EU. Perhaps that's only because we grew up in it, and never experienced whatever apparently glorious past preceded it.

Anyone under about 55 has no real experience of pre-EU/EEC days. A 55 year old now was only 11 or 12 on 1 Jan 1973.

[ToraToraTora]

Load of old Pony.

[youngmafbog]

The remain are in panic status.

Jim, what also is not known is what will happen to us if we stay in Europe, apart from of course ever more integration and loss of sovereignty.

[jim360]

My counter to OG's counter is that I'm going to have, in practice, no more control over my own destiny if the UK is out of the EU (being 1 person in ~50 million) than if we were to remain in the EU (1 vote out of ~500 million). It's an order of magnitude better, perhaps, but still practically a non-influence.

Once again, though, we've seen a couple of people come out with the "who cares about young people's opinions, they're all brainwashed anyway" crap. Whatever damage staying in or leaving the EU does to our young people, the wholesale rejection of that generation's views, opinions, and to an extent even their identity (if someone is brainwashed then they are not their own person, after all) is far more damaging. Young people deserve better than to be dismissed as inconsequential.

I don't believe this argument should be used to try and sway anything, even if it were capable of that. As I said before, if you care for young voters then presumably you'll try and do what is best for them, which just leads you to the same conclusion as before. And I wouldn't support an upper age limit for voting either. The outcome of the vote will have impacts for a long time, particularly if it's a vote to leave the EU (there is, in my lifetime at least, surely no going back). But it will also have impacts in a short enough term for everyone to care.

[Baldric]

///should there not be a cut off age in this referendum///

Entirely up to you Jordy, vote or don't vote, it's your choice.

[naomi24]

Jim, I think the people who want ‘out’ are trying to do their best for you. As for the alleged threat to jobs, there is another way of looking at it. Exit from Europe doesn't mean that business won’t continue - but it will mean that the millions who currently have free access to British jobs… won’t.

[Ellipsis]

If you had children/grandchildren (or other younger relatives or friends) and you felt your vote was not going to affect you, then rather than not vote you might vote in the way you (or they) felt would most helpful to them ...

[naomi24]

Ellipsis. that's exactly right. Older people will not be making their decision for themselves, but will vote in whichever way they feel will be beneficial to future generations and to the future of the country.