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Shouldn't The Punishment For Rape Carry A Life's Sentence?
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/// Mrs Justice Mary Stacey accused Snobs in Birmingham of 'abandoning' the 19-year-old victim to be picked off 'like prey' by two sex attackers, who took the girl's virginity. ///
/// She even suggested the nightclub was partly to blame for the rape by saying they had 'created the circumstances for the crime to occur.' ///
/// In a scathing attack on binge drinking Britain she also blasted the venue's cheap drinks promotions and accused them of acting 'irresponsibly towards their customers.' ///
/// She said: 'Something needs to be said about Snobs nightclub. ///
Obviously something should be said regarding the problems such as this, all down to the failed multicultural experiment?
This seems something like those who blame the vulnerability of the young girls, their upbringing and the way they dress etc, for attracting the Asian child groomers.
/// Mrs Justice Mary Stacey accused Snobs in Birmingham of 'abandoning' the 19-year-old victim to be picked off 'like prey' by two sex attackers, who took the girl's virginity. ///
/// She even suggested the nightclub was partly to blame for the rape by saying they had 'created the circumstances for the crime to occur.' ///
/// In a scathing attack on binge drinking Britain she also blasted the venue's cheap drinks promotions and accused them of acting 'irresponsibly towards their customers.' ///
/// She said: 'Something needs to be said about Snobs nightclub. ///
Obviously something should be said regarding the problems such as this, all down to the failed multicultural experiment?
This seems something like those who blame the vulnerability of the young girls, their upbringing and the way they dress etc, for attracting the Asian child groomers.
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There can be no fixed penalty for 'rape' as the crime varies so much.From consensual sex with a girl a few days under 16 to a violent assault only a step away from murder. As you have been told the maximum penalty is 'Life'
Is there any thread you can not drag racism into AOG ? Multiculturalism has nothing to do with this, similar events have been happening for 100s or 1,000s of years all over the world with people of every ethnicity under the Sun.
Is there any thread you can not drag racism into AOG ? Multiculturalism has nothing to do with this, similar events have been happening for 100s or 1,000s of years all over the world with people of every ethnicity under the Sun.
AOG - //Incidentally, I did award you the 'Best Answer' the other day. //
Thank you - I confess I missed it - can you advise the thread please?
And thank you for agreeing to resume an exchange of views, I am sure we can both be reasonable ... or at least unreasonable in a way that does not cause hostilities to break out again!
Thank you - I confess I missed it - can you advise the thread please?
And thank you for agreeing to resume an exchange of views, I am sure we can both be reasonable ... or at least unreasonable in a way that does not cause hostilities to break out again!
Islay - //What has happened to this girl is unforgivable but can I just point out that white men can and do rape too!! //
Of course, and non-one with an ounce of understanding would gainsay that - and I am sure that the law is equally even-handed in the issue of its punishments, which tend not to dwell on ethnicity as an issue.
Of course, and non-one with an ounce of understanding would gainsay that - and I am sure that the law is equally even-handed in the issue of its punishments, which tend not to dwell on ethnicity as an issue.
Some Asian countries have a real problem with European, Australian and American men going to their countries for underage sex. Apparently white British males make up the second largest number of all the sex tourists.
I really hope the residents of these countries don't believe all white men are the same or have such a low regard for their women and children.
I really hope the residents of these countries don't believe all white men are the same or have such a low regard for their women and children.
Islay
/// What has happened to this girl is unforgivable but can I just point out that white men can and do rape too!! ///
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
But so can black men, China men, or any shade of skin colour you may wish to add.
But it was you who brought colour into the debate not I, not even the Daily Mail mentioned their skin colour or even their religion, it was only I who made a guess that they were Asian.
But still going down the guessing road, I will have a further guess and say they were Pakistanis and Muslim to boot.
There I have answered you, so please don't accuse me further of being rude to you, just because I didn't answer you.
/// What has happened to this girl is unforgivable but can I just point out that white men can and do rape too!! ///
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
But so can black men, China men, or any shade of skin colour you may wish to add.
But it was you who brought colour into the debate not I, not even the Daily Mail mentioned their skin colour or even their religion, it was only I who made a guess that they were Asian.
But still going down the guessing road, I will have a further guess and say they were Pakistanis and Muslim to boot.
There I have answered you, so please don't accuse me further of being rude to you, just because I didn't answer you.
EDDIE51
/// Multiculturalism has nothing to do with this, similar events have been happening for 100s or 1,000s of years all over the world with people of every ethnicity under the
Sun. ///
Night Clubs, Taxis, a particular growing problem with certain immigrants in 21st century UK?
All happened 100s or 1000s of years ago??????????
/// Multiculturalism has nothing to do with this, similar events have been happening for 100s or 1,000s of years all over the world with people of every ethnicity under the
Sun. ///
Night Clubs, Taxis, a particular growing problem with certain immigrants in 21st century UK?
All happened 100s or 1000s of years ago??????????
hc4361
/// AOG, I quote your opening post: ///
Yes that seems about right, good for you.
Read what andy-hughes put in his 16.01 post.
/// The Asian men involved exhibit an all-too-common cultural attitude to Caucasian women - that they are simply sex objects to be used and discarded as and when the opportunistic circumstances arise. ///
and my answer at 16.24
*** Now had she summed up in similar words to your own, then we might be getting somewhere. ***
I think that gives you an idea of the type of thing that should have been said.
/// AOG, I quote your opening post: ///
Yes that seems about right, good for you.
Read what andy-hughes put in his 16.01 post.
/// The Asian men involved exhibit an all-too-common cultural attitude to Caucasian women - that they are simply sex objects to be used and discarded as and when the opportunistic circumstances arise. ///
and my answer at 16.24
*** Now had she summed up in similar words to your own, then we might be getting somewhere. ***
I think that gives you an idea of the type of thing that should have been said.
Rape, child prostitution, rape of children, child grooming HAS gone on for centuries in the UK.
Of course, sex with children hasn't always been illegal here. Until 1875 the age of consent for a girl was 12.
In the early 1970s and right through the 80s I witnessed men picking up young girls from care homes and nothing was done about it, just as nothing was done until Saville, really. These men were mainly white but also there were black men and Turkish Cypriots. I have no doubt it was going on before I saw it. The child grooming in Rotherham isn't new but such behaviour wasn't dealt with, children weren't listened to and indeed were considered 'troublemakers' and worse.
Of course, sex with children hasn't always been illegal here. Until 1875 the age of consent for a girl was 12.
In the early 1970s and right through the 80s I witnessed men picking up young girls from care homes and nothing was done about it, just as nothing was done until Saville, really. These men were mainly white but also there were black men and Turkish Cypriots. I have no doubt it was going on before I saw it. The child grooming in Rotherham isn't new but such behaviour wasn't dealt with, children weren't listened to and indeed were considered 'troublemakers' and worse.
hc4361
/// but I would never defend a rapist of any colour or race. ///
You and others are not making a bad job of defending these two, although to be fair only one was convicted of being a racist.
But all the same, the apologists on here have come out in force once again, some going back 100s and 1000s of years, some actually going to the trouble that there are even white rapists etc, you just couldn't make it up.
/// but I would never defend a rapist of any colour or race. ///
You and others are not making a bad job of defending these two, although to be fair only one was convicted of being a racist.
But all the same, the apologists on here have come out in force once again, some going back 100s and 1000s of years, some actually going to the trouble that there are even white rapists etc, you just couldn't make it up.
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