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Who Is Looking Forward To Trump Winning The White House?
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"You leftie luvvies cant say you weren't warned that there would be a backlash to the enforced liberalism and social experiments..."
Let me try and trash this narrative once again. As evidence, I can simply point to the rather obvious: so far, Trump's opponents have included Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Ben Carson, Rick Perry, Lindsey Grahan, among others, along with a rather surprising feud against Fox News (primarily in the shape of Megyn Kelly, who he accused of going after her because she had "blood coming out of her... wherever"). Exactly none of these people is a "leftie luvvie". Not even close. Ted Cruz, in fact, is so far to the right that Trump is probably preferable.
Exactly why is it, then, that people on the right insist on blaming the "lefties" for Trump's rise? Any one of those candidates above (although probably in practice Bush, Rubio or Cruz, has Trump not stood) would have served to hammer home this response to the "liberalisation experiment" and would have sought to have ended it forthwith. And yet Trump came, stood slightly to the left of these people on some issues... and trashed them all.
Trump's rise is not an expression of the failures of "the left". The left, as defined in the UK, barely exists in the US -- oh, and, as far as it does, it's actually done pretty well for itself, in the shape of ol' man Bernie Sanders, who has spent the last year giving Clinton a massive scare without ever really threatening to win the nomination outright. So this narrative of the right of gloating and smugness really does fly in the face of all the evidence. Trump's rise, thus far, has been because he is (seen as) someone who is outside the establishment -- and seen, too, as someone that the establishment, in the guise of the Republican Party, determined to crush. Oh, and the Republicans failed spectacularly. As they have done for the past few years, when despite electoral success away from the White House they have done nothing with the power given to them other than shout about how bad Obama is.
Or, put another way, Trump's success is the inevitable consequence of the complacency of the traditional right in the last decade or so. All that power they have had, and they have done nothing with it -- and, in the process, have essentially ignored their support. So they turned to someone who appeared to listen. Trump is entirely a product of the failures of the American right. The left had nothing to do with it.
And, heck, when Donald starts to take on, and perhaps even beat, Hillary, it still hardly marks a victory over the left. Clinton is "of the left" in about the same way that David Cameron is "of the right". The left -- the *real* left -- of America have no time for her.
Wipe those smug grins off your faces, then, right-wingers of AB, and maybe pay a bit more attention to your own house next time. Funnily enough, about the same thing might just be happening here, given how tenuous the hold the Conservatives seem to have on things currently.
Let me try and trash this narrative once again. As evidence, I can simply point to the rather obvious: so far, Trump's opponents have included Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Ben Carson, Rick Perry, Lindsey Grahan, among others, along with a rather surprising feud against Fox News (primarily in the shape of Megyn Kelly, who he accused of going after her because she had "blood coming out of her... wherever"). Exactly none of these people is a "leftie luvvie". Not even close. Ted Cruz, in fact, is so far to the right that Trump is probably preferable.
Exactly why is it, then, that people on the right insist on blaming the "lefties" for Trump's rise? Any one of those candidates above (although probably in practice Bush, Rubio or Cruz, has Trump not stood) would have served to hammer home this response to the "liberalisation experiment" and would have sought to have ended it forthwith. And yet Trump came, stood slightly to the left of these people on some issues... and trashed them all.
Trump's rise is not an expression of the failures of "the left". The left, as defined in the UK, barely exists in the US -- oh, and, as far as it does, it's actually done pretty well for itself, in the shape of ol' man Bernie Sanders, who has spent the last year giving Clinton a massive scare without ever really threatening to win the nomination outright. So this narrative of the right of gloating and smugness really does fly in the face of all the evidence. Trump's rise, thus far, has been because he is (seen as) someone who is outside the establishment -- and seen, too, as someone that the establishment, in the guise of the Republican Party, determined to crush. Oh, and the Republicans failed spectacularly. As they have done for the past few years, when despite electoral success away from the White House they have done nothing with the power given to them other than shout about how bad Obama is.
Or, put another way, Trump's success is the inevitable consequence of the complacency of the traditional right in the last decade or so. All that power they have had, and they have done nothing with it -- and, in the process, have essentially ignored their support. So they turned to someone who appeared to listen. Trump is entirely a product of the failures of the American right. The left had nothing to do with it.
And, heck, when Donald starts to take on, and perhaps even beat, Hillary, it still hardly marks a victory over the left. Clinton is "of the left" in about the same way that David Cameron is "of the right". The left -- the *real* left -- of America have no time for her.
Wipe those smug grins off your faces, then, right-wingers of AB, and maybe pay a bit more attention to your own house next time. Funnily enough, about the same thing might just be happening here, given how tenuous the hold the Conservatives seem to have on things currently.
I'd say you're 'sort of' right, jim. Establishment politicians, right and left, in America and this country, have totally ignored the silent majority and rammed uber-liberal policies down peoples' throats.
Chief of which is mass immigration for the benefit of their corporate clients. Cameron is Blair Mk2. Meanwhile, the living standards and dignity of working people is being flushed away
I see the likes of Trump and Farage as the release valve on the pressure cooker. All 'liberals' should welcome them because the alternative that would have come without them would get really bad.
Chief of which is mass immigration for the benefit of their corporate clients. Cameron is Blair Mk2. Meanwhile, the living standards and dignity of working people is being flushed away
I see the likes of Trump and Farage as the release valve on the pressure cooker. All 'liberals' should welcome them because the alternative that would have come without them would get really bad.
//Not a holiday, but thanks for asking. I managed to do my back in about three weeks ago, and took the opportunity to take some time away from AB, was all. I've been spending rather too much of my time here. //
So first day back in "class" and the need to hammer out another dissertation was overwhelming. Tut tut, you will need another "holiday" in short order if that is the way you carry on.
So first day back in "class" and the need to hammer out another dissertation was overwhelming. Tut tut, you will need another "holiday" in short order if that is the way you carry on.
And you can get odds on the size of his Richard...... (Good Gawd, what is the world coming to).
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It feels as if I have been following this thread for days! I don't know why, but
a vague feeling has solidified into (can't believe this!) a preference for Trump over Clinton in the White House. From what I am reading, he may well do it.
I think that she is nastier than he is and that he may be the more easily constrained by the established order. I know it is nothing to do with me, but that is the feeling wriggling down my spine!
a vague feeling has solidified into (can't believe this!) a preference for Trump over Clinton in the White House. From what I am reading, he may well do it.
I think that she is nastier than he is and that he may be the more easily constrained by the established order. I know it is nothing to do with me, but that is the feeling wriggling down my spine!
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