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So Is Brendan Cox Right About His Comments As To The Threat On His Wife's Politics?
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as per the BBC interview at 10pm....
Jo was very worried about the extremism in politicing in this country......singular populism viz driving communities to hate the opposition and that we have lost the tone of rationale debate in society....right or left, her hubbie's view being that she died because of this increasing polarisation.
Jo was very worried about the extremism in politicing in this country......singular populism viz driving communities to hate the opposition and that we have lost the tone of rationale debate in society....right or left, her hubbie's view being that she died because of this increasing polarisation.
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togo// I posted this late last night on another thread (to Jourdain); "en passant, I just watched her husband giving a very long, calm, measured speech about his wife's murder and we here were wondering how we would behave in such circumstance
10:04 Wed 22nd Jun 2016
I don't think it needs populism or anything else to drive the polarisation. It is an inevitable consequence of the two viewpoints. (What is populism anyway but actually listening to the democratic will of the people and representing their views as a representative should ?)
One side wishes to remain being dictated to, to a large degree, by an external power block, of whom we have no say in who is appointed as the elites but will rule by right (of something). Seemingly not concerned about their individual national identity and concerned that having to stand up for ourselves will mean a transitional period of upheaval, slightly lower growth in the short to medium term and one of those spikes in the economy that happens from time to time and which over the longer term isn't a big deal.
The other are horrified that our proud and glorious nation may no longer exist as an independent unit, no longer controlled from within by it's elected representatives but near destroyed as an sovereign nation as it is subsumed by the mix of diverse cultures and foreign views that is the EU, and who hold sway and dictate to us what laws we shall have whether we like it or not. It inevitably seems a betrayal of the past, the present, and most of all the future generations.
So it polarises by it's very nature and affects many aspects of life and many issues we need to confront. And there will always be a few folk unstable enough to be unable to control their thoughts and actions when confronted with this sort of situation. The answer was to ensure the unstable were identified and not left on their tod, with their inability to look after their problem by themselves, out in society.
One side wishes to remain being dictated to, to a large degree, by an external power block, of whom we have no say in who is appointed as the elites but will rule by right (of something). Seemingly not concerned about their individual national identity and concerned that having to stand up for ourselves will mean a transitional period of upheaval, slightly lower growth in the short to medium term and one of those spikes in the economy that happens from time to time and which over the longer term isn't a big deal.
The other are horrified that our proud and glorious nation may no longer exist as an independent unit, no longer controlled from within by it's elected representatives but near destroyed as an sovereign nation as it is subsumed by the mix of diverse cultures and foreign views that is the EU, and who hold sway and dictate to us what laws we shall have whether we like it or not. It inevitably seems a betrayal of the past, the present, and most of all the future generations.
So it polarises by it's very nature and affects many aspects of life and many issues we need to confront. And there will always be a few folk unstable enough to be unable to control their thoughts and actions when confronted with this sort of situation. The answer was to ensure the unstable were identified and not left on their tod, with their inability to look after their problem by themselves, out in society.
Did you not find his TV "statement" somewhat chilling and calculating for a man who is in his horrible position. I found it just to dispassionate, almost rehearsed and calculated. Remember that he himself is a very shrewd operator, having worked for the Save The Children organisation, being Executive Director of Crisis Action, and as a "Special Adviser" to Gordon Brown, whilst his late wife was once an aide to Sarah Brown. He is a passionate Europhile, and I feel opportunist in the extreme to use his children and the death of his wife in such a cold blooded way.
togo// I posted this late last night on another thread (to Jourdain);
"en passant, I just watched her husband giving a very long, calm, measured speech about his wife's murder and we here were wondering how we would behave in such circumstances. If my loved one had just been murdered, I think I would be now drunk or drugged and if asked if I would go before the cameras for a TV transmission, I would probably say f. off.
What would you do?"
"en passant, I just watched her husband giving a very long, calm, measured speech about his wife's murder and we here were wondering how we would behave in such circumstances. If my loved one had just been murdered, I think I would be now drunk or drugged and if asked if I would go before the cameras for a TV transmission, I would probably say f. off.
What would you do?"
People cope with grief or extreme emotion in different ways. Some may be great at putting on a stoic and dispassionate public face while being utterly distraught once on their own. I wouldn't want to assume that Brendan Cox is uncaring or calculated, or be suspicious about him because of this particular interview.
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