Why Have 60,000 New People Joined The Labour Party All Of A Sudden?

[youngmafbog]

Genuine labour supporters trying to save their party or mischievous Tories lining up to vote Mr Corbyn back in?

Personally, I wish labour would get it's act together. My long held opinion is tha a good Government is made by a strong opposition holding their every move to account.

[Gromit]

Tora,
As I have stated many times, I am not and never have been a member of the Labour Party. I voted for them once, in 1982, that is 32 years ago. I have never voted for them since.
That does not stop me having an opinion on how they are run. Having an opinion does not make me a supporter.

[Gromit]

* 34 years ago *

[ToraToraTora]

apologies, I always thought you were a Labour voter. So have you ever voted Tory?

[Jackdaw33]

Do you mean 1983?

[Gromit]

No.
I probably would have in 1979, but that was before I could vote.
I have voted for a Tory in the local elections, he was councillor I knew and was clever and genuine.

I live in a constituency with a huge Labour majority, so making protest votes is very easy. I used to vote Liberal before they showed their true blue colours. Now I vote Green if the lazy gits can be bothered to field a candidate.

[Gromit]

Jack,
Yes I do.
I usually wake up having forgotten how to spell. This morning I seem to be making loads of numerical errors.

[ichkeria]

It isn't mischievous Tories. It's probably part of the campaign to try and keep Jezza in a job by signing up a fresh electorate of Corbynistas.
It is looking increasingly likely that we are seeing the end of the Labour Party as we know it. ymb is right to suggest that that is a BAD thing.
A realignment in British politics may be in the offing, who knows.
The Tory party's future is also in the balance. It looks as though Michael Gove may not stand for the Leadership either (apart from anything else he seems to have little chance of winning) so maybe they'll manage to hold it together

[Quizmonster]

So, Naomi, you are just assuming, exactly as TTT et al 'assumed' Johnson would be Prime Minister in weeks...even to the extent of promising to appear butt-naked in Harrod's window if he wasn't.
As for seeing no evidence of public support for Corbyn, you obviously haven't been paying attention to TV coverage of young protesters providing lots of it, not to mention the new members this very thread is supposedly about!
Being over-sure of ones own views is just asking for an upset!
I am far from claiming Corbyn is likely to win a general election, but - like all things future - none of us knows...even you.

[Svejk]

Could be Blairites rallying around to counter the strong support Corbyn has among the 3 pounders.

[jno]

what makes you think Gromit votes Labour? He's denied it often enough.

[ichkeria]

"So, Naomi, you are just assuming, exactly as TTT et al 'assumed' Johnson would be Prime Minister in weeks...even to the extent of promising to appear butt-naked in Harrod's window if he wasn't. "

Erm, what??!!

Corbyn has lots of support, QM, no one denies it, but I'm afraid that having the sort of support Corbyn still clings on to is hardly a sign or a guarantee that he has any credibility outside, nor does it make him any more plausible as a political leader

[jno]

whoops, somehow missed this last page and Gromit's reiterated denial, sorry.

[Gromit]

ichkeria
// It looks as though Michael Gove may not stand for the Leadership either //

Er, he has already said he is standing. Nominations closed at noon yesterday. Tory MPs will now vote and whittle it down to two candidates for the Tory membership to decide on. Gove is unlikely to be one of the two.

[Quizmonster]

Exactly my point, Svejk. The newcomers could hold all sorts of political viewpoints, but we won't know what htese are until their votes are called for and counted and that, too, is something due to happen in the future.

[Svejk]

Old_Geezer ///Trying to permanently split the left Svejk ? :-) ///

I don't have to, og. They are split and it is impossible for them to unite under anyone.

[ichkeria]

Yes I know Gromit, but Ken Clarke for one has appealed to him to knock it on the head. Mind you, Ken Clarke is a sensible man, and it seems as though sense has long since deserted both the main parties

[naomi24]

Quizmonster, // you are just assuming, exactly as TTT et al 'assumed' Johnson would be Prime Minister in weeks...//

No, I wasn't assuming that at all - and I'm very pleased he won't be - but with the 'electorate' (we won't split hairs!) he was a popular contender. As for the rest I have no idea what you're arguing about. Corbyn is finished - and if he isn't, the Labour Party is finished.

[ichkeria]

Although he has little chance of winning, Gove's being in the fray, for as long as it lasts, is bound to be divisive. Can't see the other 2 right-wing Brexit opponents of May stirring it up with the same force

[Quizmonster]

"On the basis that I’ve seen no public support for him – none whatsoever." Naomi @ 0924
"Corbyn has lots of support, QM, no one denies it." Ichkeria @ 11.57

Not sure how both the above claims can be right, unless at least one of you is just not paying attention!
The people who are showing support for Corbyn are just as much members of "the public" as anyone else, so I'm not sure what either of you means by "outside".
Hardly anyone really believed the 'Out' vote would win the EU referendum, but it did. By the end, the bookies had Remain to win at odds of 1/7 and Leave to win at 4/1...that's eleven points of difference. So, maybe there are hordes of other 'outsiders' who will surprise us all in 2020. We simply don't - and can't - know.

[naomi24]

Quizmonster, // The people who are showing support for Corbyn are just as much members of "the public" as anyone else, so I'm not sure what either of you means by "outside". //

Well, not really. Most members of the public aren't members of the Labour Party, so there's a discernible difference, don't you think?